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| Tang Man |
 Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:38 pm |
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Yi hasn't really recapture any of the form he showed before getting injured. However he has had a couple of solid games recently against the Magic and Knicks. His minutes are down as the Nets look to push for a play off position meaning he isn't being used at all in the 4th quarter.
I did come across this report from Nets training. It seems like Yi throw down a huge dunk on Sean Williams who is a pretty decent shot blocker. We just need to see it a game!!!!
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They're still gushing over Sean.
L-Frank: "Sean has really done a great job -- he's really been focused, he's brought great energy into the gym, doing exactly what we're asking and hopefully he can keep building on it because he's been a big plus."
Jarvis Hayes: "You watch him now, and it's like he can block anything -- or he's at least gonna try -- and the others, (teams) know it."
Hayes was seated courtside watching a 3-on-3 game going on as he said this -- almost on cue -- Yi Jianlian threw down a hellacious dunk on Sean's head.
"Ooof. That's not easy to do," Hayes said.
Even Williams was impressed. He sidled over to the sideline wide-eyed, tore off his shirt, and finished the game in skins.
Here is an alley loop dunk that Yi had against the Hornets.
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| wireonfire |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:52 pm |
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| His teammates and especially the coach don't trust him. That is why he is not playing late in the game even he puts up decent numbers. I don't blame them, though. He needs to play smarter and hustle! Watch Scola or even Anderson. |
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| PhilNYC |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:53 pm |
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| I am not a fan of Lawrence Frank and put much of Yi's lack of progress on Frank's shoulders... |
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| cpa314 |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:58 pm |
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PhilNYC wrote: I am not a fan of Lawrence Frank and put much of Yi's lack of progress on Frank's shoulders...
I dont buy that at all. If Yi isnt progressing, it is no ones fault but his own. He has gotten ample minutes and enough playing time to prove himself. Its all up to him to make it happen. I will say that I dont like Frank sitting Yi out the past 2 games for the whole 4th quarter considering he was playing solid. |
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| Tang Man |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:07 pm |
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wireonfire wrote: Watch Scola or even Anderson.
You're not serious are you? Scola usually doesn't finish the 4th quarter for the Rockets because he is a defensive liability. He has improved tremendously in that area and now have got to finished games on a regular basis. However even then, sometime Landry still takes his 4th quater minutes down the stretch. Ryan Anderson sat the 4th quarter pretty much like Yi did when he started and sucked. He's not even in the rotation these days.
As for Yi, it's not Franks problem. Yi just has to be more aggressive in the 1st 3 quarters. He should really go after it in 3rd because he now knows he is not going to be playing in the 4th quarter. Where I have a problem with Franks is with him taking Yi out foul trouble. I mean what is the guy saving him for? Against the Knicks Yi scored 4 quick points in the 1st quarter but picked up 2 quick fouls and was sent to the bench. Why not let him pick another before taking him out? I mean he wasn't going to play him in the 4th anyway. |
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| wireonfire |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:09 pm |
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Tang Man wrote: wireonfire wrote: Watch Scola or even Anderson.
You're not serious are you? Scola usually doesn't finish the 4th quarter for the Rockets because he is a defensive liability. He has improved tremendously in that area and now have got to finished games on a regular basis. However even then, sometime Landry still takes his 4th quater minutes down the stretch. Ryan Anderson sat the 4th quarter pretty much like Yi did when he started and sucked. He's not even in the rotation these days.
As for Yi, it's not Franks problem. Yi just has to be more aggressive in the 1st 3 quarters. He should really go after it in 3rd because he now knows he is not going to be playing in the 4th quarter. Where I have a problem with Franks is with him taking Yi out foul trouble. I mean what is the guy saving him for? Against the Knicks Yi scored 4 quick points in the 1st quarter but picked up 2 quick fouls and was sent to the bench. Why not let him pick another before taking him out? I mean he wasn't going to play him in the 4th anyway.
Read! I didn't ask Yi to learn defense from Scola. I said he should learn to hustle and improve his bball iq by watching those guys. As a young player, he is bound to make mistakes. The key is to make up for it by playing really hard, making quick decisions. He is far more athletic than those two guys, but his slow decision making makes him appear far slower than them on the court.
Scola wasn't playing in the 4th was not because he sucks on defense. It is consensus among Rox fans that Landry is clearly a worse defender than Scola is. But the coach has to find minutes for a talented player like Landry. Landry does have one advantage over Scola in certain aspect on defense, that is his quickness. Late in the game he might be able to cover opponents better with his energy and speed. Actually lately Scola gets to finish the game more often too.
Anderson may not be as talented as Yi is, but he plays far smarter. There is a lot Yi can learn from him, like court awareness and when to attack the basket. For god's sake, Anderson goes to the line far often than Yi does. |
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| shokenchi |
| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:00 pm |
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wireonfire wrote: Tang Man wrote: wireonfire wrote: Watch Scola or even Anderson.
You're not serious are you? Scola usually doesn't finish the 4th quarter for the Rockets because he is a defensive liability. He has improved tremendously in that area and now have got to finished games on a regular basis. However even then, sometime Landry still takes his 4th quater minutes down the stretch. Ryan Anderson sat the 4th quarter pretty much like Yi did when he started and sucked. He's not even in the rotation these days.
As for Yi, it's not Franks problem. Yi just has to be more aggressive in the 1st 3 quarters. He should really go after it in 3rd because he now knows he is not going to be playing in the 4th quarter. Where I have a problem with Franks is with him taking Yi out foul trouble. I mean what is the guy saving him for? Against the Knicks Yi scored 4 quick points in the 1st quarter but picked up 2 quick fouls and was sent to the bench. Why not let him pick another before taking him out? I mean he wasn't going to play him in the 4th anyway.
Read! I didn't ask Yi to learn defense from Scola. I said he should learn to hustle and improve his bball iq by watching those guys. As a young player, he is bound to make mistakes. The key is to make up for it by playing really hard, making quick decisions. He is far more athletic than those two guys, but his slow decision making makes him appear far slower than them on the court.
Scola wasn't playing in the 4th was not because he sucks on defense. It is consensus among Rox fans that Landry is clearly a worse defender than Scola is. But the coach has to find minutes for a talented player like Landry. Landry does have one advantage over Scola in certain aspect on defense, that is his quickness. Late in the game he might be able to cover opponents better with his energy and speed. Actually lately Scola gets to finish the game more often too.
Anderson may not be as talented as Yi is, but he plays far smarter. There is a lot Yi can learn from him, like court awareness and when to attack the basket. For god's sake, Anderson goes to the line far often than Yi does.
ryan anderson 96 freethrows in 52 games
yi jianlian 91 freethrows in 47 games
yi playing more minutes cuz hes a starter. |
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| Malorkayel |
| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:35 am |
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| Yi's stats as a starter are better than Anderson. Still, neither of them play in the 4th. Frank love small ball too much. |
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| cpa314 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:47 am |
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Malorkayel wrote: Yi's stats as a starter are better than Anderson. Still, neither of them play in the 4th. Frank love small ball too much.
I think Frank should play Yi in the 4th... how the hell is he gonna regain any form at all if he plays like 17 minutes a game. Anyway, Yi has had 2 solid shooting games so hopefully he is re-finding his shooting touch and confidence. Just needs to be more aggressive and look for his own shots instead of relegating himself to floating around the 3point line and shooting jumpers. |
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| PhilNYC |
| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:37 am |
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Tang Man wrote:
As for Yi, it's not Franks problem. Yi just has to be more aggressive in the 1st 3 quarters. He should really go after it in 3rd because he now knows he is not going to be playing in the 4th quarter. Where I have a problem with Franks is with him taking Yi out foul trouble. I mean what is the guy saving him for? Against the Knicks Yi scored 4 quick points in the 1st quarter but picked up 2 quick fouls and was sent to the bench. Why not let him pick another before taking him out? I mean he wasn't going to play him in the 4th anyway.
It is a coach's job to develop and get the most out of his players, especially young players, and especially players who come from another country and have a hard time integrating into the league. When Jason Kidd was with the team, Frank never had to do that because Kidd was the floor general who specialized in getting everyone involved. Now with Kidd gone, Frank is showing the world that he has no idea how to do that.
Yi is an athletic 7fter with a good shooting touch. Frank has no idea how to use that athleticism. People complain that Yi has poor ball-handling skills...well, how about moving Yi around more without the ball, setting him some shots off screens et al (instead of having him stand around the 3pt line on the opposite side of the court where the ball is moving)? Or more pick-and-pops or pick-and-rolls? Yi does set a lot of picks, but they never pop or roll the ball to him.
And yes, then there are the head-scratchers when it comes to playing time. Yi is "starting", but then only gets 15-18 minutes, even when he's playing well. He gets zero minutes in the 4th quarter...what's up with that? Does Frank have any idea of what that does to a player's head? And it's to the detriment of the entire team...if Yi is truly the starter, then I'd have to imagine that they mostly practice with Yi playing with the rest of the starters; then comes gametime, and the starters have to adjust to a different lineup (without Yi) in the 4th quarter with the game on the line? Seriously?
Frank is a guy who was the ideal coach for a Jason Kidd-led team...works hard to analyze an opposing team, identifies their strengths/weaknesses, then ultimately lets Jason Kidd figure out how to beat them. Without Kidd, Frank shows that he doesn't have the overall knowledge to lead this team and develop young players.
There are so many things that Frank should be doing to develop Yi's game that he is not doing...and imho it's because he has no idea how... |
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