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<  Yao on the court, and his most recent game  ~  Yao is 7'6,and he has the right to be tired

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:48 pm
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win2007 wrote:
TorontoObserver wrote:
To be fair, Yao is NOT the only one that run at high gear every second. Iverson, Nash, Stockton, Archibal, Francis plays at a highly intensive level all the time. But the difference is, they are point guards and they are rare point guards with exceptional physical talent (endurance, stamina)



its not the running or jumping that take most away from you, its the banging and pushing that take most away from you.

to be a big man need banging is no easy job. that's why we see big bodies that can grap a few rebound and score a few baskets still get pay dearly.

a perimeter player play 40+ minutes is much easier than a 300 lb big man. 1st, they dont neet to bang or push that much. 2nd, they are at least 50 lbs lighter. Just imagine the extra weight big man need to carry when running.


yep, as i said several times, posting up is the most tiring job on the court. many ppl don't realize it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:57 pm
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seiya wrote:
win2007 wrote:
TorontoObserver wrote:
To be fair, Yao is NOT the only one that run at high gear every second. Iverson, Nash, Stockton, Archibal, Francis plays at a highly intensive level all the time. But the difference is, they are point guards and they are rare point guards with exceptional physical talent (endurance, stamina)



its not the running or jumping that take most away from you, its the banging and pushing that take most away from you.

to be a big man need banging is no easy job. that's why we see big bodies that can grap a few rebound and score a few baskets still get pay dearly.

a perimeter player play 40+ minutes is much easier than a 300 lb big man. 1st, they dont neet to bang or push that much. 2nd, they are at least 50 lbs lighter. Just imagine the extra weight big man need to carry when running.


yep, as i said several times, posting up is the most tiring job on the court. many ppl don't realize it.


but also Yao (and Shaq) is almost the only big man that try to post up in every possessions.

lol, you can easily have a list of 7 footer that post up less than half the possessions and play away from the baskets.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:58 pm
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win2007 wrote:
a perimeter player play 40+ minutes is much easier than a 300 lb big man. 1st, they dont neet to bang or push that much. 2nd, they are at least 50 lbs lighter. Just imagine the extra weight big man need to carry when running.


Agree. Weight has direct relationship with stamina and endurance from physiology point of view.

win2007 wrote:
its not the running or jumping that take most away from you, its the banging and pushing that take most away from you.

to be a big man need banging is no easy job. that's why we see big bodies that can grap a few rebound and score a few baskets still get pay dearly.


Don't discount the effort that other positions require. For example, a lot of point guards/perimeter players develop knee and ankle problem (and sometime back) because the way that they run, twist, jump and sudden stop motion require tremendous amount of force on the joints and muscles. In short, there are no easy positions.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:58 pm
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win2007 wrote:
seiya wrote:
win2007 wrote:
TorontoObserver wrote:
To be fair, Yao is NOT the only one that run at high gear every second. Iverson, Nash, Stockton, Archibal, Francis plays at a highly intensive level all the time. But the difference is, they are point guards and they are rare point guards with exceptional physical talent (endurance, stamina)



its not the running or jumping that take most away from you, its the banging and pushing that take most away from you.

to be a big man need banging is no easy job. that's why we see big bodies that can grap a few rebound and score a few baskets still get pay dearly.

a perimeter player play 40+ minutes is much easier than a 300 lb big man. 1st, they dont neet to bang or push that much. 2nd, they are at least 50 lbs lighter. Just imagine the extra weight big man need to carry when running.


yep, as i said several times, posting up is the most tiring job on the court. many ppl don't realize it.


but also Yao (and Shaq) is almost the only big man that try to post up in every possessions.

lol, you can easily have a list of 7 footer that post up less than half the possessions and play away from the baskets.


check my game 12 thread, i said the same thing there and earlier in some other thread


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:18 pm
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seiya wrote:
win2007 wrote:
TorontoObserver wrote:
To be fair, Yao is NOT the only one that run at high gear every second. Iverson, Nash, Stockton, Archibal, Francis plays at a highly intensive level all the time. But the difference is, they are point guards and they are rare point guards with exceptional physical talent (endurance, stamina)



its not the running or jumping that take most away from you, its the banging and pushing that take most away from you.

to be a big man need banging is no easy job. that's why we see big bodies that can grap a few rebound and score a few baskets still get pay dearly.

a perimeter player play 40+ minutes is much easier than a 300 lb big man. 1st, they dont neet to bang or push that much. 2nd, they are at least 50 lbs lighter. Just imagine the extra weight big man need to carry when running.


yep, as i said several times, posting up is the most tiring job on the court. many ppl don't realize it.


then we have a contradiction, people dont want yao to be pick and rolling as much, so what else would he do? just stand around?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:22 pm
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robWu wrote:
then we have a contradiction, people dont want yao to be pick and rolling as much, so what else would he do? just stand around?


There are high post, low post, PnR and many other offensive scheme.

Have you seen how the Kings play Divac and Webber?

Also, i dont think people dont want to see Yao PnR. It's after the screen, he's not getting the ball back. or the guard cant knock down jumper. the only effective PnR in the Rockets is T-Mac and Yao.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:43 pm
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you guys are all wrong. Yao just doenst have the energy. he's always up late playing online games, and all he eats is WHITE RICE.

wtf? haha.

rice soup for breakfast, rice and soy sauce for lunch and then rice and sweet and sour soup for dinner.

anyways, There is no excuse, its not because he's big. theres a lot of BIG NBA players out there and none of them get as fatigue as Yao.

Look at shaq, its much FATTER then yao, doesn't get as tired as yao. Remember Shaq vs. Yao 1? In the later round, Shaq dominated Yao cuz yao got tired.

Look at Dirk, he running the court, handling the ball, does a lot more running then yao, and doent get a fatigue as Yao.

Remember Kareem and Dream? Tall as ******. But doesn't get tired like Yao.

Yao needs to eat right and run with 20+ min around the track with ankle weights.

guarantted, he will feel better after the ankle weights removed.

Being Tall is no excuse.

Yao gaining weight is no excuse. He was just as weak and tired in his Rookie seaons.

NO EXCUSE. Sleep more and stop masterbating.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:49 pm
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cna-man wrote:
you guys are all wrong. Yao just doenst have the energy. he's always up late playing online games, and all he eats is WHITE RICE.

wtf? haha.

rice soup for breakfast, rice and soy sauce for lunch and then rice and sweet and sour soup for dinner.

anyways, There is no excuse, its not because he's big. theres a lot of BIG NBA players out there and none of them get as fatigue as Yao.
Look at shaq, its much FATTER then yao, doesn't get as tired as yao. Remember Shaq vs. Yao 1? In the later round, Shaq dominated Yao cuz yao got tired.

Look at Dirk, he running the court, handling the ball, does a lot more running then yao, and doent get a fatigue as Yao.

Remember Kareem and Dream? Tall as ******. But doesn't get tired like Yao.

Yao needs to eat right and run with 20+ min around the track with ankle weights.

guarantted, he will feel better after the ankle weights removed.

Being Tall is no excuse.

Yao gaining weight is no excuse. He was just as weak and tired in his Rookie seaons.

NO EXCUSE. Sleep more and stop masterbating.


You have no logic, Shaq is not taller than Yao and weigh not much more. Nitwitski is only 7' feet and definiyely not as heavy as Yao. Kareem and Dream, again no where as tall as Yao and slim. The fact is Yao is the TALLEST AND ONE OF THE HEAVIEST combined made Yao the most easily tired out player.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:03 pm
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cna-man wrote:
you guys are all wrong. Yao just doenst have the energy. he's always up late playing online games, and all he eats is WHITE RICE.


NOT AGAIN on your White Rice Theory....cna-man aka cnaman. :twisted:

Are you a paparazzi that kept monitoring Yao Ming's daily life ???

How do you know he stayed up late playing online game ?? How do you know he sleeps late and masturbates ??


Stop your biased d@ssing and bashing.......

Yao Ming had even stopped his habit of posting his feelings on his official fan sites. And right after each match in Toyota Centre, he kept working hard in the gym on his strength and conditioning.

Yao Ming said it himself. Tireness is not an excuse. The current slump and consecutive defeats has been a combination of numerous factors: new players, untimely injury of TMAC and Rafer Alston, tough November schedule (8 games in 12 days with 3 back-to-back playing against better NBA teams) etc.....
Yao Ming is NOT the culprit to shoulder all the blames; he is just part of the team. Others including JVG and the other players are also responsible.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:04 pm
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pryuen wrote:
cna-man wrote:
you guys are all wrong. Yao just doenst have the energy. he's always up late playing online games, and all he eats is WHITE RICE.


NOT AGAIN on your White Rice Theory....cna-man aka cnaman. :twisted:

Are you a paparazzi that kept monitoring Yao Ming's daily life ???

[color=cyan]How do you know he stayed up late playing online game ?? How do you know he sleeps late and masturbates ??

Stop your biased d@ssing and bashing.......

Yao Ming had even stopped his habit of posting his feelings on his official fan sites. And right after each match in Toyota Centre, he kept working hard in the gym on his strength and conditioning.

Yao Ming said it himself. Tireness is not an excuse. The current slump and consecutive defeats has been a combination of numerous factors: new players, untimely injury of TMAC and Rafer Alston, tough November schedule (8 games in 12 days with 3 back-to-back playing against better NBA teams) etc.....
Yao Ming is NOT the culprit to shoulder all the blames; he is just part of the team. Others including JVG and the other players are also responsible.


"How do you know he stayed up late playing online game ?? How do you know he sleeps late and masturbates ??" Haha, I can't imagine that. :lol:


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