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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:23 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:23 pm
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mirthheart wrote:
This team has very good balanced scoring. I don't care if Yao scores 30 pts every night. Rockets win!!! Balanced scoring means we have weapons that can't be defended. You double up Yao or McGrady we burn you from the other 3 positions. Rockets could go far in the playoffs.

M


Well, i DO care if he score 30. Simply put Yao is not a star - his being a role player. If he wins a ring it wont be considered HIS work. But all the credit would goto Tmac and Sura.

Its no good wining a Ring if ur not the main man.

If Yao won a ring at the current level of his contribution, it would be barely higher than Robert Horry's contribution to Lakers rings.


I want Yao to be an MVP-claiber player THEN go and win a ring. His gotta take a step back to play with the bobcats/hawks/raptors/bucks etcetc first. THats the only way for Yao to go forward. Not at houston where he be permanent second option to Tmac, or even to Sura. This is not what we want. If China's best baller is nothing more than a role player, i say that is a joke.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:24 pm
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Chuck__187 wrote:
I disargee with pryuen.

Yao ming is becoming more and more of a role player. Something we fans simply cant and shouldnt accept.
Ok, if Yao was like a mid-order 1st rounder, then his current performance would be very good. But his a number pick for goodness sakes! We expect more.

His 7-6 and his got skills. 21 minutes of action and a measely 6 (or 5? or 4?) rebound and less than 20 points is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Contrary to alot of you, STATS DO MATTER. Sure, if player A is 24ppg and player B is 25 ppg, it doesnt mean player A < player B. But when the statistical deficiency is so big - like it is for Yao- then u cant help but see concern and see someone becoming into a role player.



cannot agree more...........


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:25 pm
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rico wrote:
While people are busy at debating, I'm watching Yao interview on NBATV which is about 2 mins long. 8)


what did he say?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:26 pm
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We should bring the Rox dancers in Away games. Anyone notice Alawan in the grass skirt from our last home game ?? yum

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:27 pm
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Chuck__187 wrote:
mirthheart wrote:
This team has very good balanced scoring. I don't care if Yao scores 30 pts every night. Rockets win!!! Balanced scoring means we have weapons that can't be defended. You double up Yao or McGrady we burn you from the other 3 positions. Rockets could go far in the playoffs.

M


Well, i DO care if he score 30. Simply put Yao is not a star - his being a role player. If he wins a ring it wont be considered HIS work. But all the credit would goto Tmac and Sura.

Its no good wining a Ring if ur not the main man.

If Yao won a ring at the current level of his contribution, it would be barely higher than Robert Horry's contribution to Lakers rings.


I want Yao to be an MVP-claiber player THEN go and win a ring. His gotta take a step back to play with the bobcats/hawks/raptors/bucks etcetc first. THats the only way for Yao to go forward. Not at houston where he be permanent second option to Tmac, or even to Sura. This is not what we want. If China's best baller is nothing more than a role player, i say that is a joke.



damn good talk...........


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:38 pm
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Chuck__187 wrote:
mirthheart wrote:
This team has very good balanced scoring. I don't care if Yao scores 30 pts every night. Rockets win!!! Balanced scoring means we have weapons that can't be defended. You double up Yao or McGrady we burn you from the other 3 positions. Rockets could go far in the playoffs.

M


Well, i DO care if he score 30. Simply put Yao is not a star - his being a role player. If he wins a ring it wont be considered HIS work. But all the credit would goto Tmac and Sura.

Its no good wining a Ring if ur not the main man.

If Yao won a ring at the current level of his contribution, it would be barely higher than Robert Horry's contribution to Lakers rings.


I want Yao to be an MVP-claiber player THEN go and win a ring. His gotta take a step back to play with the bobcats/hawks/raptors/bucks etcetc first. THats the only way for Yao to go forward. Not at houston where he be permanent second option to Tmac, or even to Sura. This is not what we want. If China's best baller is nothing more than a role player, i say that is a joke.


I would take the WIN. Robert Horry is a great player. Look at the Pistons last year, they won the championship with Role players.

Basketball is a TEAM sport, do you have a problem with winning? Yao can learn by being in a winning team, or in a loosing team. Now, by saying he should be playing for the Hawks or Raptors is foolish. Last time I checked NBA didn't play by AND1 rules.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:41 pm
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Looking at the Detroit Teams and yes lets look at JVG's Knicks team of old. JVG wants his team to play hardnosed defense. Ewing wasn't always an option although I have the feeling that if Ewing had played somewhere else, his stats would have been a lot better. I remember watching Ewing at the Knicks and always thought, that guy is so inconsistant, he can't bring it every night. Remember???? Well this Rockets team looks a lot like that Knicks team now. Not every player is bringing it every night. Starks remember was a streaky player. So were Yet the Knicks were a playoff team. If we want an MVP calibur player to develop it's not going to be with JVG.


Just look at these guys? Do any of them scream out MVP to you?


Patrick Ewing 81 3003 779 1550 1 7 400 556 191 789 980 151 74 161 265 286 1959
John Starks 80 2477 513 1199 108 336 263 331 54 150 204 404 91 12 173 234 1397
Charles Smith 81 2172 358 764 0 2 287 367 170 262 432 142 48 96 155 254 1003
Anthony Mason 81 2482 316 629 0 0 199 292 231 409 640 170 43 19 137 240 831
Doc Rivers 77 1886 216 494 39 123 133 162 26 166 192 397 125 9 114 215 604
Rolando Blackman 60 1434 239 539 31 73 71 90 23 79 102 157 22 10 65 129 580
Charles Oakley 82 2230 219 431 0 1 127 176 288 420 708 126 85 15 124 289 565
Greg Anthony 70 1699 174 419 4 30 107 159 42 128 170 398 113 12 104 141 459
Tony Campbell 58 1062 194 396 2 5 59 87 59 96 155 62 34 5 51 150 449
Hubert Davis 50 815 110 251 6 19 43 54 13 43 56 83 22 4 45 71 269
Herb Williams 55 571 72 175 0 0 14 21 44 102 146 19 21 28 22 78 158
Bo Kimble 9 55 14 33 2 8 3 8 3 8 11 5 1 0 6 10 33
Eric Anderson 16 44 5 18 0 0 11 13 6 8 14 3 3 1 5 14 21


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:44 pm
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Malorkayel wrote:
I would take the WIN. Robert Horry is a great player. Look at the Pistons last year, they won the championship with Role players.

Basketball is a TEAM sport, do you have a problem with winning? Yao can learn by being in a winning team, or in a loosing team. Now, by saying he should be playing for the Hawks or Raptors is foolish. Last time I checked NBA didn't play by AND1 rules.


Robert Horry is NOT a great player. If his wat u want to compare Yao to aspire to, u must have LOW expectations.

Yep, i do have a problem with winning if there is little contribution to it. I've actually player basketball before, and letme tell ya - everyone hates the wagon rider supposed "star" who doesnt much for the team even when they win. Its the same in the nba.

Yao would learn better if he was the number one option on a bad team.
Foolish??? Whats is so foolish about backing oneself to raise a lower rung team to the playoffs or even a win.
AND1 rules wtf?? I dont even watch that stuff.


THe thing is prefer Yao to be the best possible player. Even if it means he has to play for a worser team and get lots of W's. Becuase i am confident after a few seasons he'll get better and be good enough to led that team high.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:48 pm
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You guys are waaaaaaaay off. Yao's no role player, not even close; in fact, the opposite is true - Yao's Houston's most important player, by far. Not TMAC, not Sura, not Howard - Yao. It's just NOT about his scoring numbers. It's about the TEAM's scoring numbers. It's about the TEAM's scoring defence. It's about the TEAM's wins and the TEAM's losses. You take Yao off this team, and they just tank - TMAC or no. Coaches and GM's around the league ALL KNOW Yao's true value to this Houston team and everytime they play Houston, they prepare for HIM - first and foremost. Who gives a sh1t, if the press, or other teams fans, recognize his contribution! Basketball is won ON THE COURT, boys - nowhere else.

Aceman..........out


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