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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:18 pm
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To put it very simply, China in the modern period has always seen "progress" as a synonymous with rejection or "graduating" from Chinese things.

in other words, Chinese culture, mores, customs not only INFERIOR but literally something that holds Chinese back. this self loathing is universal in the minds of cantos that bridge the political spectrum all the way from butters to Moranus and back

every Chinese leader starting with Sun himself saw the only way for Chinese to modernize or "progress" by rejecting the very Chinese element of Chinese culture. this meant things like education, a modern military, Western political identity via "Han Nationalism" but down to things like venerating your elders via kowtowing. even Chinese haircuts were seen as "shameful" and debilitating

Mao, obviously literally wanted to burn down Chinese cultural artifacts as polluting modern essential Communist ideology.


simply to butters, being as AMERICAN as possible... with an iphone, drinking coffee, watching a Transformers movie is the ONLY way to have WORTH as a Chinese. his starting point is an extreme Chinese Nationalism, which is not a Chinese ideology or philosophy at all... but a Western one that is counter to basic Chinese worldview and basic Chinese values.

to butters the "dream" isn't for China to be a Chinese nation but to be essentially a CLONE of the US. but with every aspect COPIED from the US and renamed or rebranded as a corresponding Chinese clone. so even with Luckin it's not a point of pride that they made great coffee but that they are the "Chinese version of Starbucks, a major Jewish American company."

COPYING is the thing that brings him great pride. INNOVATION is out of the question, as is retaining a Chinese soul. butters doesn't even think Chinese are CAPABLE of innovation. the best his low self-worth worldview will permit is that Chinese are "good enough" to have their versions of American things. the "Chinese Apple smartphone" the "Chinese Starbucks" are the things that butters most long and is most proud of.

the "Chinese aircraft carrier" etc. carriers are obsolete but that's not the point. the point is that the US has them. so for butters to have worth China must copy a version as well



the thing about coffee is that there's really 0 reason why Chinese should drink that. it's a weird drink, and the REASON why the originators, the Arabs drank and spread it is specifically because they were forbidden to drink alcohol like the rest of the civilized world. otherwise those arab traders would not have spread the drink in their travels and no one would be drinking that random bean.

the Chinese have something FAR SUPERIOR in tea. which unlike coffee is an extremely healthy, almost magic drink.

there's 2 points here

1) Chinese drink more and more coffee, and spend many billions on coffee. and the ONLY reason is because the drink is closely associated with America.

2) Chinese tea consumption has been in DECLINE for a half decade... ironic not only because of the Chinese propensity for self-hate drives them to abandon a much superior product simply because it represents the "past" of authentic Chinese culture, and doesn't not associate that drinker with superior American culture

but tea consumption WORLDWIDE is in ASCENT. so not are Chinese abandoning Chinese culture to chase after American... they are actually ***** BACKWARDS or at least a generation behind.... as if they were actually copying cutting edge America they would be increasing tea consumption as their models the Americans are doing.

so not only are they frontrunning and abandoning their own history... they're doing it incompetently... in essence copying what they understand of American culture that isn't even current


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:15 am
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There are popular bubble tea startup by Chinese that are very popular.

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“I am trying to make tea-drinking cool among Chinese millennials,” the 27-year-old entrepreneur said in an interview in his office in Shenzhen, which is decorated in the same simple and chic style as Heytea shops.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/start-ups/art ... ting-costs


The fascination I have is the "cool factor" in drinking coffee or tea. I think it is more marketing but for the cantos, maybe Tem is right.

I have my 1 morning cup of coffee. I don't really care what coffee.

Socially tea is a very Chinese thing especially when visiting friend homes. It is always expected to be served tea. Sipping tea is also good for gossiping

The other social beverage are the alcohols but meh


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:23 am
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wahahahaha, grasshopper the moron, the Chinese drinking coffee is not at the expense of drinking tea. In general, Chinese people are drinking more tea, coffee, bubble tea and other alcoholic beverages.


Nope, as tea house are getting more rare. How many stores has Luckin opened this year?

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"The first step is to switch tea for more mild coffee drinks such as 3-in-1s and the frappuccinos you get at Starbucks," said Cofco's Mr Reiner. "Then coffee starts being consumed in the office and at home. That's how it develops. We are talking a massive potential here, with between 450 and 600 million Chinese joining the middle class by 2021-22."

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east- ... ushes-east


Also in the context especially among the young Chinese, drinking coffee or tea socially in tea house or cafe?

But my point is, why the fascination in the rapid increase of coffee consumption in China? a dominantly tea drinking country where tea is a very strong part in Chinese culture

Bubble tea is hugely popular in China though. Why butters no fascination in bubble tea???


wahahahahaha, grasshopper the snob, even in Singapore and Hong Kong, there are still tons of Cantonese restaurants where enjoy their dim sum with fine Chinese tea. In Hong Kong style fast food chains, milk tea and lemon tea are among the most popular items.

People like pryuen are hooked on coffee from Mcdonalds. Now Luckin coffee represents new investment scheme as the Chinese are drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:10 pm
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wahahahahaha, grasshopper the snob, even in Singapore and Hong Kong, there are still tons of Cantonese restaurants where enjoy their dim sum with fine Chinese tea. In Hong Kong style fast food chains, milk tea and lemon tea are among the most popular items.


Yes but again why your continue fascination with Lurkin and Starbucks and the growth of coffee culture and at the expense of tea culture in China?

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People like pryuen are hooked on coffee from Mcdonalds. Now Luckin coffee represents new investment scheme as the Chinese are drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries.


Canto, Chinese drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries. That is precisely replacing tea with coffee culture. I never had dim sum with coffee ever. It's called Yum Cha.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:48 am
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hopper wrote:
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wahahahahaha, grasshopper the snob, even in Singapore and Hong Kong, there are still tons of Cantonese restaurants where enjoy their dim sum with fine Chinese tea. In Hong Kong style fast food chains, milk tea and lemon tea are among the most popular items.


Yes but again why your continue fascination with Lurkin and Starbucks and the growth of coffee culture and at the expense of tea culture in China?

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People like pryuen are hooked on coffee from Mcdonalds. Now Luckin coffee represents new investment scheme as the Chinese are drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries.


Canto, Chinese drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries. That is precisely replacing tea with coffee culture. I never had dim sum with coffee ever. It's called Yum Cha.


grasshopper the snob, even in Singapore and Hong Kong, there are still tons of Cantonese restaurants where enjoy their dim sum with fine Chinese tea. In Hong Kong style fast food chains, milk tea and lemon tea are among the most popular items.

In addition of drinking 3 cups of tea, they are now drinking 3 cups of coffee.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:49 am
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Another way for pryuen to order his Luckin coffee.

Meituan to team up with China Starbucks challenger Luckin Coffee on delivery services

https://www.scmp.com/tech/apps-social/a ... e-delivery


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:20 pm
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LoL, butters

you're the type of guy that will order home delivery for coffee.

Anyway that was a really crappy article. No idea how home delivery service can be considered tech. This is more logistic than tech.

And I can already order a fruit salad from the fruit store 2 blocks down where I used to stay with meituan so meh, nothing new.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:26 am
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hopper wrote:
LoL, butters

you're the type of guy that will order home delivery for coffee.

Anyway that was a really crappy article. No idea how home delivery service can be considered tech. This is more logistic than tech.

And I can already order a fruit salad from the fruit store 2 blocks down where I used to stay with meituan so meh, nothing new.


wahahahaha, this is a big deal for pryuen who does not have drivers license, and lazy to walk down the block to the nearest Luckin coffee shop for his daily coffee and pastry habit.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:24 pm
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superjohn wrote:

wahahahaha, this is a big deal for pryuen who does not have drivers license, and lazy to walk down the block to the nearest Luckin coffee shop for his daily coffee and pastry habit.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:57 am
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People like pryuen are hooked on coffee from Mcdonalds. Now Luckin coffee represents new investment scheme as the Chinese are drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries.


Canto, Chinese drinking coffee with Chinese style pastries. That is precisely replacing tea with coffee culture. I never had dim sum with coffee ever. It's called Yum Cha.


butters isn’t talking about Chinese pastries like egg tarts or almond pastries. When he says CHINESE he means WESTERN PASTRIES that Taiwanese have copied from a Japanese and opened in China. It being copied in China makes it “Chinese”

butters ideal “China” is a young canto sitting in 85C eating a cheese danish drinking his luckin coffee snapping pix with his iPhone making a Korean finger hearts trying to impress some factory worker girl at the next table.

paying for it all on an apple pay clone that the government is monitoring


to butters sitting at home with friends drinking tea is useless and does nothing to “catch up” with the US, it’s hopelessly Chinese and not the “good Chinese” of copying/passing the West but just Chinese like grandma and pryuen

Tea is necessary with Chinese food because Chinese food is greasy and tea cuts that. smh @ butters with a paper coffee cup in his hand in Ottawa trying to wash down his USA Panera fast food sandwich


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