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superjohn
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[size=120][color=#BF00BF] wahahahahaha, pryuen the traitor is so mad that he cannot accept Chinese successes in aircraft engines.
pryuen should just shut up and accept the fact, and then move on.
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http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0707/c90000-9082920.html
AVIC report: China's Taihang engine widely deployed in military
By Jiang Jie (People's Daily Online) 14:45, July 07, 2016
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AVIC report: China's Taihang engine widely deployed in military
(File photo of Taihang engine)
China’s Taihang engines have become a significant, large-scale presence in the military, making China the third country in the world that has mass deployment of domestically-produced high-thrust engines for military use, according to the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) annual report.
AVIC's social responsibility report showed that the company is capable of independently conducting research and development on the next generation of high-thrust aerial engines, along with advanced drones such as Wing Loong, which have also been deployed in the military.
The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Air Force has deployed no less than 400 Taihang engines in five air force regiments. Various types of fighter jets are equipped with the engine, including the J-11B and J-15 carrier-based fighter jets, reported China Science Communication, a news site under the Chinese Academy of Sciences. So far there have been no crashes due to engine failure among Taihang engine-equipped fighter jets, the news site also noted.
Some doubts have been voiced about the originality of the Taihang engine, as there are people who believe the Chinese-made engine is a copy of its Western counterparts. However, according to China Science Communication, the development of the Taihang engine was based on accumulated experience and technological advances gathered since 1978. The engine was also based partially on its predecessor, WS-6, which spent some 20 years in development.
Meanwhile, the engine also took inspiration from the control system of Russia's AL-31F aircraft turbofan engine, China Science Communication admitted, calling the Taihang engine a result of “independent development combined with technology from the Soviet Union and the U.S.”
“China has become the fourth country in the world to independently design and produce large transportation aircraft, as well as the third country to independently develop stealth fighter jets,” the AVIC report said, adding that China has advanced its air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles to the fourth generation. [/color][/size]
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pryuen
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:33 am |
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superjohn
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:08 am |
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[color=#0000FF]wahahahaha, the WS-10 engines are fully ready now. The success has been hard fought. Kudos to all those engineers involved.[/color]
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hopper
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:08 pm |
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[quote]wahahahaha, the WS-10 engines are fully ready now. The success has been hard fought. Kudos to all those engineers involved.
If WS-10 is so successful, why does China still need to import engines???
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superjohn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:27 am |
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[quote="hopper"][quote]wahahahaha, the WS-10 engines are fully ready now. The success has been hard fought. Kudos to all those engineers involved.
If WS-10 is so successful, why does China still need to import engines???
[size=120][color=#0000FF]wahahahahaha, grasshopper the deluded Singapore snob.
For the nth time I am saying this again. The AL-31 engines bought are for replacing the old engines for early models of J-10 and J-11.
As the new WS-10 and the AL- 31 have different dimensions, the new WS-10 would not fit properly on the early J-10 and J-11 models. Those early models J-10 and J-11's tail-end are tapered differently to accommodate the AL-31.
The latest J-10 and J-11 tail end are re-designed to accommodate the new WS10 engines.
Just do the math, they make 50 new J-10 and 60 twin engine J-11 per year. So they need at least 160-170 new WS-10 engines per year. The Russian AL-31 that they bought over the past couple of years cannot not even sufficiently replace the engines on older J-10 and J-11 planes. This indicates the new WS-10 are installed on the new est J-10 and J-11 planes.[/color][/size]
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hopper
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:01 pm |
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[quote]For the nth time I am saying this again. The AL-31 engines bought are for replacing the old engines for early models of J-10 and J-11.
And for the nth time I am saying, canto stronk will have you believe that the 100 AL-31 engines are for maintenance for old J-10.
Just to have some context. Early J-10 is designed with WS-10 for the engines. The WS-10 were so unreliable that China has to switch to the AL-31. Now you are saying that early J-10 cannot use WS-10. Just modify the frame back to like what they did originally to "re-design" to use the AL-31.
J-15 was designed with WS-10 for the engine. All prototype was using the AL-31, how is it they can switch to WS-10 for production????
Canto
I can even tell you that the AL-31 was not meant for the single engine J-10 but China has no choice cause the WS-10 sucks more. If the WS-10 didn't suck so much, all J-10 would by now would not have any Al-31.
Oh capacity problem cause China can only make 150 per year, but they buy 100 from Russia at $5 million each. Canto
Canto Victory
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superjohn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:34 pm |
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[quote="hopper"][quote]
Oh capacity problem cause China can only make 150 per year, but they buy 100 from Russia at $5 million each. Canto
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wahahahaha, the Chinese are not buying 100 engines per year from Russia.
Why buy when you can produce better WS-10 engines locally?
Reasons:
1)The Chinese are ramping up their production capacity of WS-10 engines.
2)Russia does not have enough capacity themselves for both local and export markets, even if India and Vietnam want to buy more..
3) The fact is that, the numbers do not add up. The total # of new J-10 + # of J-11/J-15/J-16 produced each year + engines for replacement on older planes, requires more than 200 engines each year. That is a total of 1000 WS-10 engines over a span of 5 years.
According to reports, the Russians will only supply 100 engines over 5 yrs, that means the Chinese are producing 900 WS-10 engines over a span of 5 years.[/color]
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hopper
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:08 am |
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[quote]wahahahaha, the Chinese are not buying 100 engines per year from Russia.
Why buy when you can produce better WS-10 engines locally?
Reasons:
1)The Chinese are ramping up their production capacity of WS-10 engines.
2)Russia does not have enough capacity themselves for both local and export markets, even if India and Vietnam want to buy more..
3) The fact is that, the numbers do not add up. The total # of new J-10 + # of J-11/J-15/J-16 produced each year + engines for replacement on older planes, requires more than 200 engines each year. That is a total of 1000 WS-10 engines over a span of 5 years.
According to reports, the Russians will only supply 100 engines over 5 yrs, that means the Chinese are producing 900 WS-10 engines over a span of 5 years.
LoL, butters attempt playing with number, outnumbered by his own numbers.
If I get butters calculation correctly, producing 900 WS-10 in 5 years has capacity issues so China need to over pay for another 100 Russian AL-31 because 900 WS-10 is not enough. How many AL-31 J-10 does China has???
Russia capacity issue for AL-31????
That is even after Russia is intentionally scaling down production for the AL-31, because it is outdated. Logically moving on with 117s. Canto
Canto Victory.
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superjohn
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:06 pm |
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[size=150][color=#0000FF] wahahahahaha, the deluded grasshopper.
J-15 #120, the 20th seen onboard.[/color][/size] [img]http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/slidenews/8_img/2017_01/203_229136_265157.jpg[/img]
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hopper
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:16 pm |
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[quote]wahahahahaha, the deluded grasshopper. J-15 #120, the 20th seen onboard.
LoL, butters.
First butters worries about foreign spies looking at PL-9 which they can most probably look at in detail in air shows. Now butters post pictures of #120 for "foreign spies".
Counting tail number is the first thing "foreign spies" do if they are spying. Actually the number 1 security concern when I was still in service are nerds counting aircraft tail numbers and type. That is why for static display or photo opp, it is always the same aircraft being used.
Again, the number of frames are public information. It is the number in active service that is critical.
There are multiple fan sites counting J-15 tail number on the carrier if you search the net, but meh.
Like I said, 13 is active on the carrier. There should be more than 20 but they will do squawk but replace downed aircraft if the carrier capacity is 13.
But seriously, jokes aside. The extra J-15 are needed as trainer cause China doesn't have one. Might also account for some of the crashes.
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