[quote="pryuen"][quote="Dr. No"][size=109][color=red]old fart, you lost your debate upon O's competence as the President.[/color]

now, you've digressed to talke about qualifications before becoming president [/size]

[quote="temuchin"]

[size=109]why do you bother?

this is a ****** moron who claimed that

1) Illinois state legislature is ample qualifications to being President

2) Illinois state legislature is BETTER QUALIFICATIONS than running California

3) VPs is the best qualification to be President

4) had no clue that Gerald Ford was PRESIDENT and thus was nominated to run again. he thinks he was some random "pedestrian" candidate

5) has no clue what New Republicanism is, no clue how that brand of socially conservative Republicanism is different from George Bush/George Shultz's traditional Moderate Republicanism

6) has no clue what Republicans were like before Reagan, ergo is ignorant of the impact that Reagan had in remaking the Republican Party of today.

7) never heard of the term Reagan Democrat

6) has no clue who Barry Goldwater is. thinks maybe he's a Democrat that Reagan made a speech for in 1964. is clueless of the Jewish roots of both modern American Conservatism and American Neo Conservatism

[color=red]he's utterly clueless

he actually posted[/color][/size]

[quote="Dr. Moranus"]

[size=109]10.10.2011 - Ronald Reagan isn't the embodiment of New Republicanism. Because he was wtf once a Democrat. [/size]

as I posted Dr Moranus has no clue when Reagan switched to Democrat. he literally thinks Reagan became governor at 40 and President at 55.

he has absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of ANY of the context or history of these people he's discussing. he thinks Reagan was 30s in 1960. He thinks he was 50 at his election, when in fact HIS AGE was a big issue his second term BECAUSE HE WAS THE OLDEST PRESIDENT.

Dr Moranus doesn't even know the basics so of course he doesn't even know the contextual stuff about these men either. I mean he literally read "New Republican" and thinks "wtf he was typed the word REPUBLICAN when Reagan was once a Democrat. so it's LIES"

It's useless to talk about basic knowledge like the fact that prior to Goldwater the REPUBLICAN was a moderate, staid, American in line with Eisenhower. and SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES were Democrats in line with Richard Russell's Southern Congress.

but like I say he doesn't even know who REAGAN is so how the ****** is he going to know who Richard Russell is/

this is a MORANUS who has DENIED the existence ("lies") of a seminal point of American history as the REAGAN REVOLUTION of the Republican Party.

and this is a fag who rails all day against Conservatives. he doesn't even know what a Conservative is... other than what he sees on Rachel Maddow.

it's like him babbling about the LA LAKERS yet he doesn't know when Logo was GM or who he drafted. he didn't even really know who KAREEM was or what SHOWTIME was. he had never heard of James Worthy, AC Green, Byron Scott and all those guys

[quote="temuchin"][size=109]as I posted Dr Moranus has no clue when Reagan switched to [color=red]Republican.[/color] he literally thinks Reagan became governor at 40 and President at 55.[/size]

haha okay. my mistake.

the bottom line is Obama was woefully unprepared for office. he had no clue what he wanted to do and no team or skills to get it done even if he had a clue.

he kept talking about drawing down soldiers in the middle east.

he talked about fixing the economy

he talked about reaching across the aisle and working with Republicans.

he talked about helping the Palestinians.

a couple years in it's clear that Obama simply made all those statements out of ignorance. ignorance of how hard those issues are, what the costs would be politically, and what forces would be arrayed against him.

Dr Moranus comparing Obama to JFK and Reagan, two of the modern Presidents who have MOST come into office to reshape America and with a clear political/economic/social gameplan and the longterm support system to implement it is just retarded.

Reagan remade modern Conservatism, economics and politics. he moved the entire spectrum of the country Right, took down Communism and created a entire new generation of Conservatives who influence America to this day

JFK came in with a cadre of American intellectuals from Harvard and previously semi-vested groups like Jews and Catholics... many of whom he put in key positions. his term served as the catalyst for the shift of the country younger and Left after the postwar Eisenhower years, and set the stage for the upheaval of the 60s. he put a man on the moon.

both Reagan and JFK had clear visions of America. neither Reagan or JFK came into office clueless and kept on the Carter/Eisenhower administrations. moreover they had the political tools and intellect to get it done.

Moranus doesn't know who JFK or Reagan was. at this point it's dubious whether he even knows who or what Obama stands for

[quote="temuchin"] the bottom line is Obama was woefully unprepared for office. he had no clue what he wanted to do and no team or skills to get it done even if he had a clue.

[quote="Dr. No"]

[size=109][color=red]he passed the Healthcare bill,[/color] a legistlation that has been talked about, nothing done, since Nixon was President, some 40 years ago [/size]

[quote="pryuen"][quote="Dr. No"]

[size=109][color=red]he passed the Healthcare bill,[/color] a legistlation that has been talked about, nothing done, since Nixon was President, some 40 years ago [/size]

[quote="Dr. No"][quote="pryuen"][quote="Dr. No"]

[size=109][color=red]he passed the Healthcare bill,[/color] a legistlation that has been talked about, nothing done, since Nixon was President, some 40 years ago [/size]

Another thread down the toilet.