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pryuen
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:12 am |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[quote="temuchin"][quote="Dr. No"]
[quote="voyd"] [size=109]Primary resistance includes a majority of free-market Republicans, including House Speaker[color=red] John Boehner[/color]. [/size]
[size=109]damn you're stupid.
Ohioans, in particular, [color=red]John Baner [/color]is as anti-China as you can get.[/size]
[size=109]this [color=red]fuking ****** [/color]didn't even make sense in English[/size]
[size=117][color=red]YEAH.....the guy is just FVCKING STUPID !!![/color]
[color=darkred]I mean when Dr. Moranus quoted the words posted by voyd, he could[/color] [color=red]NOT EVEN TYPE[/color] [color=darkred]the name of John Boehner [/color][color=red]CORRECTLY[/color] [color=darkred]by looking at what he quoted on voyd's post.[/color]
[color=red]NOTHING MORE FVCKING RIDICULOUSLY FUNNY THAN THIS !!! [/color][/size]
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pryuen
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:37 am |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[size=117][color=red] This one is REALLY FUNNY.[/color] [color=darkred]So for [/color][color=red] 2 consecutive days,[/color] [color=darkred]right after US Snate passed the Currency Exchange Rate Oversight Reform Act of 2011, instead of seeing the Renminbi vs US Dollars [/color] [color=red] RISE,[/color] [color=darkred]it was [/color][color=red] GOING DOWN !!![/color] [color=red] And there was a HIDDEN MESSAGE behind it !!!! [/color][/size]
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http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011 ... ange-rate/
[size=150][color=red] Getting Kabbalistic with the Yuan Exchange Rate[/color][/size]
[size=109] October 13, 2011, 7:34 PM HKT.
Did Chinese policy makers slip a sly joke in with their currency-policy moves?
[b]The People
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Dr. No
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:10 am |
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[quote="pryuen"][quote="temuchin"][quote="Dr. No"]
[quote="voyd"] [size=109]Primary resistance includes a majority of free-market Republicans, including House Speaker[color=red] John Boehner[/color]. [/size]
[size=109]damn you're stupid.
Ohioans, in particular, [color=red]John Baner [/color]is as anti-China as you can get.[/size]
[size=109]this [color=red]fuking ****** [/color]didn't even make sense in English[/size]
[size=117][color=red]YEAH.....the guy is just FVCKING STUPID !!![/color]
[color=darkred]I mean when Dr. Moranus quoted the words posted by voyd, he could[/color] [color=red]NOT EVEN TYPE[/color] [color=darkred]the name of John Boehner [/color][color=red]CORRECTLY[/color] [color=darkred]by looking at what he quoted on voyd's post.[/color]
[color=red]NOTHING MORE FVCKING RIDICULOUSLY FUNNY THAN THIS !!! [/color][/size]
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Dr. No
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:23 am |
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turd is just too stupid to understand [quote="pryuen"] [size=14[color=darkred]I mean when Dr. Moranus quoted the words posted by voyd, he could[/color] [color=red]NOT EVEN TYPE[/color] [color=darkred]the name of John Boehner [/color][color=red]CORRECTLY[/color] [color=darkred]by looking at what he quoted on voyd's post.[/color] is that the best you can do, parrot.
this is a discussion on economics, something that don't understand, so you side-track the topic---picking on the intentionally mis-spelling, to cover up your lack of understanding
it is an intentional mis-spelling dto deride Baner ; but you're just too stupid to understand
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pryuen
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:36 pm |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[quote="Dr. No"] [size=109] it is [color=red]an intentional mis-spelling dto deride Baner [/color]; but you're just too stupid to understand [/size]
[color=red][size=167]ROFLMAO !!!!
LAME [/size][size=117]EXCUSE !!!! [/size][/color]
[size=117][color=darkred]You [/color][color=red]NEVER DARE[/color][color=darkred] to admit to defeat or that you're [/color][color=red]WRONG.....[/color]
[color=darkred]If your first post of Baner was an[/color] [color=red]intentional mis-spelling[/color][color=darkred] to deride Boehner, then in your response to my post, [/color][color=red]you need not mis-spell Boehner's name AGAIN !!![/color]
[color=darkred] Therefore, this is[/color][/size] [color=red] [size=117]but a futile attempt to deny the very obvious[/size] [size=134]死鸡撑饭盖[/size] [/color] [size=117][color=darkred] .....that you had spelt John Boehner's name[/color] [color=red]WRONG !!!![/color][/size]
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pryuen
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:07 pm |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[quote="Dr. No"]
[size=109]this is a [color=red]discussion on economics, [/color]something that[color=red] I don't understand.[/color][/size]
[size=117][color=red]YEAH.....
This is a discussion on economics that SOMEONE like you don't understand:[/color]
- [color=darkred]Someone that could not understand [/color][color=red]BASIC [/color][color=darkred]economic concepts of [/color][color=red]SUPPLY VS DEMAND.[/color]
- [color=darkred]Someone that could not differentiate between[/color] [color=red]ACTIVE JOB CREATION from PASSIVE SAVING JOBS.[/color]
- [color=darkred]Someone that could not understand what Uncle Sam is experiencing is[/color] [color=red]STRUCTURAL UNEMPLOYMENT.[/color]
- [color=darkred]Someone that could not understand that[/color] [color=red]EVERY country is manipulating i.e. managing its currency, [/color][color=darkred]and had to finger-point to China only for currency manipulating.[/color]
- [color=darkred]Someone who did not realize that the previous rounds of Quantitative Easings was[/color][color=red] but just an alternative kind of currency manipulation effort[/color] [color=darkred]from Federal Reserves to print electronic money out of the thin air to bail out the ailing banks/financial institutions, which original intent was for them to lend to private sector/small enterprises so as to help the private sector/small enterprises to expand and hire so as to enhance unemployment and revive economy.[/color] [color=red]But eventually the QE1 AND QE2 DID ZERO/NADA[/color] [color=darkred]to increase lending, to alleviate unemployment, to create aggregrate demand for the economy, but instead all the extra liquidity went to the pockets of the CEOs/senior executives of the ailing banks/financial institutions as their pay/bonuses/dividends, as well as spent on speculation on the stock/commodity markets for hit-and-run profits which jack up prices of all kinds of commodities, created bubbles and triggered US domestic and global inflation.[/color]
[/size][color=red][size=150]NUFF SAID [/size][size=117]about someone that had SO LITTLE KNOWLEDGE about economics, someone that's COMPLETELY brainwashed to think YEAH.....QEs had been SUCCESSFUL to get Uncle Sam's economy back on track !!! [/size][/color]
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temuchin
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:05 pm |
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[quote="Dr. Moranus"] it is an intentional mis-spelling dto deride Baner ; but you're just too stupid to understand
this is stupid
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pryuen
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:24 pm |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[size=150][color=red] EXACTLY..... AT LEAST [/color][/size] [size=117][color=darkred]there are sane American reporters/analysts realize that this kind of allegations that China had been manipulating its Renminbi is [/color][color=red] NOTHING BUT JUST DOUBLE STANDARDS AND HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST !!!
Uncle Sam should just look into the FVCKING mirror [/color][color=darkred]to realize that if China is accused of currency manipulating, [/color][color=red] Uncle Sam is also commiting the SAME CRIME [/color][color=darkred]in their previous rounds of Quantitative Easings, and their latest round of Operation Twist !!!![/color][/size]
[quote] http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/06/news/economy/thebuzz/[size=150][color=red] China isn't the only currency 'manipulator'[/color][/size] [size=109] By Paul R. La Monica @CNNMoney October 6, 2011: 1:24 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A newsflash to the legislators in Washington who suddenly want to act tough against China for currency manipulation: [color=red]Have you looked in the mirror lately?
How can anyone with a straight face declare that China needs to be punished for keeping the yuan artificially low when the United States is also aggressively trying to devalue the dollar with its monetary and fiscal policies?
The righteous indignation and holier-than-thou attitude is comical at best. The Federal Reserve, through two rounds of quantitative easing and now Operation Twist, has helped push the dollar lower.[/color] Simply put, buying up U.S. Treasuries as if they were Missoni apparel at Target leads to lower interest rates and a weaker currency. The do-nothing Congress hasn't made matters any better. The debt ceiling debacle this summer didn't help the dollar either. The short-term economic outlook is dismal. Focusing solely on longer-term deficit reduction at the expense of the current health of the cash-strapped/underwater on their house/nervous about their job American consumer also makes the U.S. dollar less attractive. [color=red] You may not agree with President Obama's latest jobs plan. But this economy needs some form of targeted and immediate stimulus to get it back on solid footing. Austerity isn't the answer. Just ask Greece.[/color] Now don't get me wrong. I'm not endorsing China's policies per se. As much as China has opened itself up to the West and capitalist ideas, the government does not let the yuan trade as freely as it should. That's a huge problem. GE: Partnering with China is better than being left outHowever, the U.S. does need to concede that China has taken baby steps to let the yuan appreciate. After all, it is up against both the dollar and the euro this year. Should the yuan be even higher? Probably. But provoking China into a possible trade war is not the answer. Are U.S. manufacturers hurt by the fact that an artificially low yuan makes Chinese exports cheaper? Of course. Funk metal band Primus (at least I think they're funk metal?) wryly comments on this in a song called "Eternal Consumption Engine" on their new album. Lyric: "Every time I get a little bit bored. Head to the Wally-Mart store. Livin' high on the greasy hog. As long as they don't deport my job. Cause everything's made in China." Still, we need to ask ourselves this. While trying to protect manufacturing jobs in the U.S., do we risk damaging the broader economy even more by antagonizing China? Like it or not, China holds nearly $1.2 trillion in U.S. Treasury debt. The Chinese are already not thrilled that the same dollar-damaging policies I've written about have also withered away the yields on long-term bonds. [color=red] "A currency war would be very bad for the entire economy. China has an increasingly important pull," said Ashraf Laidi, chief executive officer of Intermarket Strategy Ltd, a London-based research firm. "Its bargaining power has increased. If the U.S. points fingers, it will be even worse for the dollar."[/color] Also, isn't the U.S. more of a services-led economy these days anyway? Aren't "we" trying to export more to "them?" Fast food chain Yum Brands (YUM, Fortune 500), for example, now generates more revenue from China than in the U.S. Luxury good retailer Coach (COH) is rapidly expanding its presence in China as well. Starbucks (SBUX, Fortune 500) also has aggressive plans to open more stores in China. Do we really want to open up the door for China to retaliate and slap tariffs or more onerous restrictions on American companies? [color=red] "To change the trade dynamics between the U.S. and China is a tricky, delicate manner. You can't use a sledgehammer," said Andrew Busch, global currency and public policy strategist with BMO Capital Markets in Chicago.
"The repercussions will be swift and negative. There are other ways to address the issue that could be more productive," he added. [/color] Can China save Europe?[color=red]It would be one thing if China could truly be singled out as the only major nation on the planet that manages its currency.
But as I've pointed out, the U.S. does it too. And one man's currency "manipulation" is another's currency "intervention." Many countries play funny games to move the value of their paper up or down.
The central banks of both Japan and Switzerland have taken steps this year to rein in the surging yen and franc.[/color] Both currencies have been bid up in speculative "safe haven" trades this year due to the deteriorating outlook for the dollar and euro. Each country, but especially Japan, felt it necessary to act to protect their own economic interests. A runaway yen could be disastrous for Japan since it would make goods sold by companies ranging from Toyota (TM) and Honda (HMC) to Sony (SNE) and Panasonic more expensive overseas. Sure, there is a difference between stepping in to stop the free markets from running amok and letting the free markets do their job in the first place. [color=red]But make no mistake. Everybody "manipulates" their currency in some fashion. The U.S. needs to recognize that and move on. Working with China, as opposed to more heated rhetoric, can help solve some of the world's economic problems.
"The party that loses the most in a trade war is the one that has a big deficit. We have a big dependency on China," [/color]said Axel Merk, president of Merk Mutual Funds, a Palo Alto, Calif.-based money manager specializing in currency investments.
"If you are always complaining about your lawn, you should cement it over and not have grass. It's always easier to blame somebody else for your own problems," Merk added. [/size]
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Dr. No
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:23 am |
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[quote="pryuen"][size=14][color=darkred]You [/color][color=red]NEVER DARE[/color][color=darkred] to admit to defeat or that you're [/color][color=red]WRONG.....[/color]
look in the ****** mirror, old fart.
you had conveniently blamed QE 2 as being the cause of the rising cost of living in the Chinese city you live in.
and of course, who can forget you most embarrasing mistakes as it relates to your make-up lies about InO
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pryuen
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:48 am |
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Posts: 59329Location: Hong Kong/ChinaJoined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:13 am
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[quote="Dr. No"]
[size=109]look in the ****** mirror, old fart.
you had conveniently blamed QE 2 as being the cause of the rising cost of living in the Chinese city you live in.[/size]
[size=117][color=red]WHICH PART you don't understand, DOUCHEBAG??? [/color][/size]
[quote="pryuen"]
[size=109]Someone who did not realize that the [color=red]previous rounds of Quantitative Easings was but just an alternative kind of currency manipulation effort [/color]from Federal Reserves to print electronic money out of the thin air to bail out the ailing banks/financial institutions, which original intent was for them to lend to private sector/small enterprises so as to help the private sector/small enterprises to expand and hire so as to enhance unemployment and revive economy. [color=red]But eventually the QE1 AND QE2 DID ZERO/NADA to increase lending, to alleviate unemployment, to create aggregrate demand for the economy, [/color]but instead all the extra liquidity went to the pockets of the CEOs/senior executives of the ailing banks/financial institutions as their pay/bonuses/dividends, as well as [color=red]spent on speculation on the stock/commodity markets for hit-and-run profits which jack up prices of all kinds of commodities, created bubbles and triggered US domestic and global inflation. [/color][/size]
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