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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:18 pm
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PaidInFull wrote:
Wow look what I found one in dozens of articles related to naturalized Chinese citizens stealing our military secrets and trying to give them to Red China.http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/05/navy.indictments.ap/
And you're asking me why I question some citizens loyalty. The post above is just another example.



hey, vanilla ice, here is a list of espionage cases.

http://www.dss.mil/training/espionage/

see how many white americans are on the list. looks like they are overwhelmingly whites to me. maybe i should question your loyalty.


and are you a serial killer? since most of the serial killers are white, so i have to question whether you would go "jeffrey-dahmer" on us.

oh wait, maybe you're a self-claimed patriot like timothy mcveigh.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:48 pm
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Loki wrote:
PaidInFull wrote:
Wow look what I found one in dozens of articles related to naturalized Chinese citizens stealing our military secrets and trying to give them to Red China. http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/05/navy.indictments.ap/
And you're asking me why I question some citizens loyalty. The post above is just another example.



hey, vanilla ice, here is a list of espionage cases.

http://www.dss.mil/training/espionage/

see how many white americans are on the list. looks like they are overwhelmingly whites to me. maybe i should question your loyalty.


and are you a serial killer? since most of the serial killers are white, so i have to question whether you would go "jeffrey-dahmer" on us.

oh wait, maybe you're a self-claimed patriot like timothy mcveigh.


3500 Chinese front companies working in the US spying for China. That's scary. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed053105c.cfm Chinese espionage cases are rising 20-30% every year in the US. It even mentions another case in 2004 when a Chinese-American couple tried to sell $500,000 of computer tech to China to enhance their missile systems. China relies on low Chinese Americans to do their dirty work and collects intel one small piece at a time then puts it all together. America is a huge target because we are an open society. China's spying is also causing a stir in Britain. One person said "when Chinese nationals work in Western businesses, our 'clients' experience is that they have mixed loyalties."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051111/wl_uk_afp/britainchinaspies
and
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=159663&cat=Business


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:42 pm
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Joey85 (aka PaidInFull), is this you?

http://media.putfile.com/Joey85

:oops: :P :lol: :wink:

It can be surprising to see what you get if you google Joey85.

Are you from Toronto? (You mentioned your team is Toronto Raptors.)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:51 pm
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PaidInFull wrote:
Wow look what I found one in dozens of articles related to naturalized Chinese citizens stealing our military secrets and trying to give them to Red China.http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/05/navy.indictments.ap/
And you're asking me why I question some citizens loyalty. The post above is just another example.


Actually, the real threat to the US and the eventual downfall of all empires come from within. The cause of it? The consistent and appreciable degeneration of its people which is caused by abundant wealth, privilege, over-consumption (obesity, debauchery, uncontrolled spending, abuse of chemical stimulants including medically prescribed substances, etc.) and moral decay (lethargy, disregard for learning, rampant permiscuity, glamorization of violence, etc.). More likely than not, you, Mr. "PaidInFull With Borrowed Foreign Currency", just like a large number of Americans are partaking in atleast a number of these unvirtues. But don't feel bad about it. No one is judging you. That's just the way the human nature works and the course that history seems to run. No amount of unracist, benevolent, and brotherly loving Chinese peril conspiracy spun by you or any other self-proclaimed "patriotic" American can do to stop the decay and collapse. What you might try is some self-examination. (Did you ever listen to Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror"?) China and Chinese bashing (and yes I can see through your sneaKKKy intention to, after the fact, distinguish "loyal Chinese-Americans" from Chinese) can "save America". If you want to save America, take a good look at your super-sized, but unsubstantiable, sense of self righteousness and "make that change".


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:11 pm
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Loki wrote:
PaidInFull wrote:
Wow look what I found one in dozens of articles related to naturalized Chinese citizens stealing our military secrets and trying to give them to Red China.http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/05/navy.indictments.ap/
And you're asking me why I question some citizens loyalty. The post above is just another example.



hey, vanilla ice, here is a list of espionage cases.

http://www.dss.mil/training/espionage/

see how many white americans are on the list. looks like they are overwhelmingly whites to me. maybe i should question your loyalty.


and are you a serial killer? since most of the serial killers are white, so i have to question whether you would go "jeffrey-dahmer" on us.

oh wait, maybe you're a self-claimed patriot like timothy mcveigh.


lol. Good one, Loki.

Hey, Paidinfull, Loki totally owns you, boy.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:19 pm
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PaidInFull wrote:
Wow look what I found one in dozens of articles related to naturalized Chinese citizens stealing our military secrets and trying to give them to Red China.http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/05/navy.indictments.ap/
And you're asking me why I question some citizens loyalty. The post above is just another example.


Oh wow espionage. BIG DEAL. It's not like your country isn't guilty of that. Remember the spy plane incident? Your great President even had the balls to "DEMAND" that China return the plane. LOL what an arrogant prick.

If anything, it's your Bureau of Immigration that's at fault here. They didn't do a thorough enough background check on them.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:08 pm
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LOL! Now I know PaidInFull/Joey85/1China is not a Rox fan. No! He's not a Toronto fan either....

He's a MAVS FAN. You know why?
Quote:
Chuck Norris had the flu when he fought Bruce


This is the EXACT SAME excuse the Mavs fans had when Ryan Bowen SHUT DOWN Dirk last year.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:14 am
Posts: 1110Location: new york cityJoined: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:53 am
PaidInFull wrote:
3500 Chinese front companies working in the US spying for China. That's scary.


thats a good one. :lol: :lol: :lol:

you just continue being scared. okay?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:05 am
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PaidInFull wrote:
One person said when Chinese nationals work in Western businesses, our 'clients' experience is that they have mixed loyalties."


While there might be some truth on this statement, this is simply a reality and how the world is today with people immigrating to different countries.

This is exactly the same as Italian nationals, Russian nationals, Ireland nationals, etc etc. So, please do not target just Chinese nationals.

I know a few foreign nationals who live permanently in China and Hong Kong and when it comes to loyality, you know who they will root to. And yet, no one complain this in Asia.

So, is this a racist and unfair comment or what?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:06 pm
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TorontoObserver wrote:
PaidInFull wrote:
One person said when Chinese nationals work in Western businesses, our 'clients' experience is that they have mixed loyalties."


While there might be some truth on this statement, this is simply a reality and how the world is today with people immigrating to different countries.

This is exactly the same as Italian nationals, Russian nationals, Ireland nationals, etc etc. So, please do not target just Chinese nationals.

I know a few foreign nationals who live permanently in China and Hong Kong and when it comes to loyality, you know who they will root to. And yet, no one complain this in Asia.

So, is this a racist and unfair comment or what?


And how many of these foreigners are Chinese citizens? And how many foreign nationals work in China as compared to the US, Canada or the UK? We're talking thousands compared to millions. Also foreigners cannot become Chinese citizens and you're easily spotted because it's a homogenous society. Could you imaging some white guy saying he's a Chinese citizen? No. But there are millions of ABCs and CBCs. Another problem is foreign nationals working in China are easily tracked by the CCP. In the US, Canada or the UK this is difficult because you can be Asian and still be a citizen thus making it more difficult to track your activities. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Chinese students working in our university labs. What kind of technology is at risk there. It's a fact that China uses front companies, overseas Chinese students, and even Chinese Americans to steal our most advanced tech. Not all at once usually piece by piece. They put all that info together like a puzzle back in China. We should not allow non-US citizens into these labs. The most advanced technologies are in the West thus making us a target. No one's going to steal Chinese technology anyways because our stuff's more advanced to begin with. It's China who wants to steal our technology for mostly military means which is what these naturalized Chinese Americans were arrested for. It's quite obvious if you look at the facts. Do you think China would let any foreign national into any of their labs? It's our freedom that makes us easily susceptible. Are we going to give up our freedom? No. It's very scary that anyone has any loyalty towards the CCP. To have loyalty to your people is one thing to steal and spy for a ruthless, corrupt gov that suppresses freedom of speech and kills and incarcerates its opposition is another. If there's no opposition who's to stop them from doing what they want? I know that the majority of Chinese Americans are loyal patriotic citizens. However there does seem to be a minority some on this site who's loyalty lies elsewhere.


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