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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:16 pm
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China played really bad in the 2nd and 4th quarters. In the olympics so far CNT has looked brilliant in some quarters and looked like headless chickens in others. 3rd quarter vs USA, 4th quarter vs Spain, 2nd quarter vs Angola, 2 bad quarters today, really no excuse for this.

looked like germany's only play was to run down the court give the ball to nowitzki and shoot a 3. Or go down the court make one pass then shoot, no pick and rolls or any other plays. reminds me of asian teams like Lebanon and Qatar. Seeing germany play today, I can't believe they beat Angola by 30.

China didn't play nearly as well today as they did vs Spain. If they did they would have beat Germany by 25 points. I think they may have been out of gas in late in the game because it was their 4th game in 7 days. If they played Germany in the 2nd game instead of the 4th game it wouldn't have been such an ugly win.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:25 pm
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So, no mention of those very dubious calls at the end? :lol:

This was not an impressive game for China. They played twice as good against Spain (for 35 minutes). JK is really going to have no learn how to partition Yao's time better. He was just hanging at the end of the game. Blatantly.

But hey, a win is a win, and I'm looking forward to their games against Greece and Lithuania. If they do well as well as they did against Spain (and with a much better Yao), who knows what can happen?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:23 pm
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another reason why China won this game is because of the hugh height advantage China had. germany's point guard was only 5'10". China had a height advantage at every position. Sun Yue blocked so many shots because the german guards where so short.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:24 pm
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nig1 wrote:
Yi Jianlian is the game MVP. His effort on both sides really fired up the rest of his teammates. Yi & Sun set the tone for the game, great game guys.


Is your country Vietnam EVER going to produce a player in the NBA? :lol: :lol:

Keep talking. You're embarrassing yourself and your country. Got pho?! NOT!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:29 pm
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Germany is not a good Basketball team. You only have to look at the boxscores. China did what they were suppose to do today, they beat a team worse than them.

China do have to address that a few of their players are liabilities and add very little to their team. They also have to set up better offensive and defensive packages in relation to Yao's minutes and poor stamina.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:48 pm
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robWu wrote:
Liu and execute in the same sentence? ahhahaahh did you watch the 4th quarter today?

plus how often does jonas call for a play that involves turning it over? cause if that's what he calls, the liu wei is executing it to perfection.


he's homo for sure. all the chinese guards are as gay as ****** but what are you going to do? those of you who played sports know that you play with the team you have not some fantasy team from you brain. it's not like chen is any better, in fact he's more of a gamble for the coach than liu on occasion committing a turnover. chen doesn't know what the ****** he's doing, he at any time is good for a 6,8 point run or more for the OTHER team plus his defense is ******. No coach is willing to play a guy who might have a tiny bit more upside but also could very well blow your lead as a downside

who said liu is any good? he turns over the ball more than yao. but generally speaking if you're looking at team fundamentals, most of the shots he takes you can excuse... those are shots any decent guard needs to take when he's wide open. the fact that he sucks at hitting them doesn't change that he has to take those shots if he's on the court. Yes he does sometimes do something inexplicable like randomly dribble out the clock like Steve Francis. But since they dont have anyone who will perform better, and since china is squeaking by, it's perfectly logical that they continue to play him.

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This was not an impressive game for China. They played twice as good against Spain (for 35 minutes). JK is really going to have no learn how to partition Yao's time better. He was just hanging at the end of the game. Blatantly.


This is what basketball is. You have 2 decently matched teams and you have up and down. If you win, it's partly the breaks, partly luck, partly officiating and partly "deserving" it through skill and effort. China could have well lost this game, be happy they won and dont look at a gift horse in the mouth.

All you all dont talk about Spain as if it's some high water mark for China, just like the first quarter v the US. If games were 3 quarters long, Spain would have pushed in the 3rd quarter. They're an experienced team who can weather runs and hot shooting by opponents. It's not like it was some sort of super play that let China lead Spain, it was a combination of hitting shots, a bit of momentum, bad play by Spain etc.

In short if you can replicate performance by virtue of a game plan that's one thing but if China plays Spain again do you think they'll run big leads like that again? Playing basketball sometimes things just roll your way, China hit one of those spurts with Spain. Hot for 1 quarter, 3 quarters or even a game means less than just toughing out a wins consistently like Spain did the other day and China did today

Malorkayel, China isn't a clearly superior basketball team than Germany but they do have definite advantages over that team: height, home court (officiating/crowd) and Yao Ming. They won because they were able to capitalize on those things. All of China's games so far have been GOOD games to watch. This was definitely their best effort... despite what noobs think about Spain (which they blew) and USA (where they were close only by hot shooting and would have lost but 40+ if US really pushed)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:53 pm
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NADman wrote:
nig1 wrote:
Yi Jianlian is the game MVP. His effort on both sides really fired up the rest of his teammates. Yi & Sun set the tone for the game, great game guys.


Is your country Vietnam EVER going to produce a player in the NBA? :lol: :lol:

Keep talking. You're embarrassing yourself and your country. Got pho?! NOT!


what the ****** are you so glib about? you didn't have anything to do with Yao being in the NBA. The universal randomness that resulted in you being part of a crowd of 1.3 billion doesn't actually give you credit for the man's own accomplishments. unless you're Yao Ming himself and can take rightful pride in being in the NBA, LOL@U for taking credit on behalf of the chinese race

you know at first it was odd that you named yourself after a man's ballsack and every post ended with Ji Jianlian TEABAGGING SOMEONE exclamation exclamation exclamation point. but sadly those turn out to your most quality posts


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:23 pm
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pryuen wrote:
ArcticMonkey2 wrote:


Just watched the replay. You are so off, its not even funny.

1) The turnover was on Sun Yue. Chen pass it to Sun, and Sun dropped it to the German.

2) Chen went in for a layup and got knocked down to the floor, by the time he got back his man then went and hit a 3. How is that on Chen? Someone should of pick his man up before Chen get back on defense.

3) The 2nd 3 was totally Chen's fault. He was playing the drive, and should of been on the shooter tighter. Thats where Chen lost his focus, and was his fault.

After that he never got off the bench again.


Please rewatch the video tape once more........ :roll:

The pass was to Yao Ming at a very close distance......and not to Sun Yue. Yao Ming did not even catch the ball.

On the first 3, you're right that he got knocked down during his layup, and someone should pick up his slack in defense........

But had you ever thought if he had not try to show off with that very fancy dribble/penetration/layup of his, then there would not have that [b]3-pointer by the German point guard?[/b]





Show off? he made a simple drive and attempt layup. Same play he always run, a high screen and he drives to the basket. This time he just got stripped and bumped to the floor.

How is that fancy or showing off? It was a open lane, and if he didnt take it, you would of been screaming about why he wouldnt take a open layup.

Liu Wei getting the ball stolen from him by Hamanan is ok, Liu picking up crucial foul at critical moment is not a problem. All because he is Yao's dear friend. Instead of being good friends with Du Feng, CJH should of stayed closed and befriended Yao, since anyone who is close friends of Yao is immune from criticism.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:47 pm
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nomad_balla wrote:

pryuen has been poisoned by CCTV commentators who picks on every little mistake of chen jiang hua .


If you know and understand Chinese, you can go and see the comments of numerous Chinese basketball fans on various basketball forums sharing the same opinions: Jonas Kazlauskas, please don't use Chen Jianghua for the rest of this Olympics.

One of the remarks of a Chinese fan rightfully summarized Chen Jainghua's game:

Chen Jianghua is the most persistent player on the national team; he is so persistent that he'll keep dribbling and dribbling until he turns the ball over.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:48 pm
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temuchin wrote:
nomad_balla wrote:
pryuen has been poisoned by CCTV commentators who picks on every little mistake of chen jiang hua and never says a word when liu wei goes on and takes three forced shots late in the game while missing badly giving the germans a chance to come back from a double digit deficit. liu wei's TO's are retarded and his shot selection is horrendous. the real problem is liu wei and many on the forum tend to agree that he is a moron.


so you are happy to argue who's cooler: a fag or a homo. both of them are gay

but pryuen's point is that liu might miss those jumpers but that's because he simply sucks at shooting... he isn't FORCING them persay they're good open shots he simply misses

chen is a chucker. he is totally undeveloped. what the ****** is a coach supposed to say when he wades into the paint with no idea what to do and chucks it in the air praying for a 10% chance it'll 1)not get blocked 2)he wont be called for a charge 3)it'll miraculously drop into the basket

Chen obviously has more talent than Liu but it's LMAO for you guys to go after pryuen for having issues with his game THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY EVIDENT

any of you think Chen doesn't chuck? and it's not like the dude can dish to yao either. if you're a coach trying to ring out wins from this team would you honestly play Chen? at least Liu will try to execute the plays you call...


all those things you've accused of chen applies to liu wei


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