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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:18 pm
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Phil

good point.

i always enjoyed debate / discussion w you.

Sabonis played in a league that emphasized finesse skills; but he uses his strength to dominate the finnesse game in the Spanish league. he'd use his strength and size to get good passing angles, scroing and reboudning position.

while PRY has been parroting the so-called Chinese sports-writer who conveniently claims that Sun Yuet is the Chinese Magic johnson. the writer assumes that Magic was just another tall baller playing guard.

the writer didn't know squat about Magic, not knowing that he used his strength to get into great passing / rebounding / scoring position. Magic was a power player who was playing the PG. Sun Yue was the opposite of a power player. yet, PRY parroted the sports writer's convenient assumption

in the case of Sabonis, PRY---without ever seeing Sabonis play---is again parroting. embarrassing

Sabonis was a power player who leveraged his physical strength to play the finesse part of the game. Shaq leveraged his physical strength to play his game.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:22 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
Phil

good point.

i always enjoy debate / discussion w you.

Sabonis play in a league that emphasized finesse skills; he uses his strength to play the finnesse game. he use his strength and size to get good passing angles, scroing and reboudning position.

while PRY has been parroting the so-called Chinese sports-writer who conveniently claims that Sun Yuet is the Chinese Magic johnson. the writer assumes that Magic was just another tall baller playing guard.

the writer didn't know squat about Magic, who uses his strength to get into great passing / rebounding / scoring position. Magic was a power player who was playing the PG. Sun Yue was the opposite of a power player.

Sabonis was a power player who leveraged his physical strength to play the finesse part of the game. Shaq leveraged his physical strength to play his game.


I dunno...just doing a couple of quick Google searches, I find that Sabonis was known for his passing, his range (even from 3 point range), etc...not really distinguished for his strength...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:24 pm
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did you see his game against Robinson in the Olympics ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:31 pm
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It was very unfortunate for us basketball fans that we have never seen a 21 year old heathy Sabonis playing in the NBA.

It was said that he was just amazing and second to none in the world including the NBA (Jabbar was still in his prime) at the center position. His skills was like a top combo guard in a 7'3 body.

Some highlights from Sabonis' time in the NBA, long past his prime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhnD...lpage#t=13 5s

An amazing pass by Sabonis. You can hear the announcers giggling like little kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZizsAdutYo


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:42 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
did you see his game against Robinson in the Olympics ?


Yes (though not in a long time). What does that prove? Robinson gives up 2 inches and 60lbs to Sabonis. On the other hand, Sabonis gives up 40lbs to Shaq...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:07 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
Phil

good point.

i always enjoyed debate / discussion w you.

Sabonis played in a league that emphasized finesse skills; but he uses his strength to dominate the finnesse game in the Spanish league. he'd use his strength and size to get good passing angles, scroing and reboudning position.

while PRY has been parroting the so-called Chinese sports-writer who conveniently claims that Sun Yuet is the Chinese Magic johnson. the writer assumes that Magic was just another tall baller playing guard.

the writer didn't know squat about Magic, not knowing that he used his strength to get into great passing / rebounding / scoring position. Magic was a power player who was playing the PG. Sun Yue was the opposite of a power player. yet, PRY parroted the sports writer's convenient assumption

in the case of Sabonis, PRY---without ever seeing Sabonis play---is again parroting. embarrassing

Sabonis was a power player who leveraged his physical strength to play the finesse part of the game. Shaq leveraged his physical strength to play his game.


lol what a clown. you have no ****** clue.

everything you wrote is stupid but here's a couple of facts.

First of all Sabonis is known for his passing, court vision, shooting, and tenacity not his strength

Second, "Sabonis played in a league that emphasized finesse skills" is ****** retarded. You dont EVEN KNOW WHAT SABONIS IS FAMOUS FOR. you type "a league" as Sabonis played for ONE LEAGUE and it was the SPANISH LEAGUE. Sabonis only played in Spain for FEWER YEARS than he played in the NBA. PLUS his days in Spain were AFTER his surgery and he was already on the decline. moron. Sabonis is known for his international accomplishments in addition to Spanish league and the NBA. youre ignorant to not know this and think that Sabonis was a Spanish league player, DEVELOPED for that league. Stupid.

Third, you type "did you see his game against Robinson" as if there was ONE match. Sabonis played Robinson in addition to the 88 Seoul Olympics. For example the 86 World Championships. And no one here believes that you watched that game. You never even watched basketball or the lakers before 2002

in just a few posts here's the garbage you've already posted"

1) Sabonis and Shaq are pretty much the same type of player
2) Sabonis was not known for his passing
3) Sabonis didn't have the shooting range of Robinson
4) Sabonis was known primarily as a player who relied on his strength to "muslced opposing Center for scoring / rebounding position."
5) The fact that Sabonis was known for his passing is "toilet paper"
6) The fact that Sabonis was known for his shooting is "toilet paper"
7) The USSR didn't play ZONE during international competitions
8 )Sabonis developed his game in the Spanish league according to the playstyle of that league
9) Sabonis did NOT have surgery in the late 80s
10) Robinson and Sabonis only met once in 1988 Seoul
11) A REAL Lakers fan would NOT know about the 2000 WCF series versus Portland
12) Sabonis is known primarily for his play in the Spanish league instead of FIBA international ball in addition to play in various leagues.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:10 pm
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temuchin wrote:
we also know that Sabonis was precisely in the mold of DAVID ROBINSON and HAKEEM, finesse, smooth centers that owned Shaq badly.
your opinion is worst less thant toilet paper.

DRob is ultra quick, Hakeem is even quicker. by comparison, Sabo had lead in his shoes.

both DRob and Hakeem used their superb athleticism to their advantage; Sabo relied on his strength.

bothe DRo and Hakeem were great defenders; Sabo slacked offf on D.

Turd, do you even understnd what precisely means. :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:
temuchin wrote:
Sabonis might have better than both these players when he was in his prime before his injuries... although this is debated. If a wrecked Sabonis could average 16 in the league he might have well put up 60-70 like Robinson or dominated other centers like Hakeem.
TOELET PAPER pulled outta your azz

stop embarrassing yourself.

do you even know who Hakeem is ???? :roll: :oops:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:08 pm
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Shaq and Sabonis are definitely two different types of players. Even during Sabonis's years in the NBA you could tell that his points, his game was clearly different. And yes, his passing was legendary, probably one of the best passing centres of all time. He also had an outside shot he relied upon and made consistently. From a centre perspective, they aren't that similar. That's not to say Sabonis didnt have strength nor did he shy away from contact and using his size advantage in the post either.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:14 pm
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WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED????

When I reuked Dr. No's initial comment that Sabonis is the SAME TYPE of players as Shaquille O'Neal, I ALREADY reckoned/forseen this is going to happen.

And from
ALL THE GARBAGE he posted, as well as the personal insults he threw at me and Temuchin,
it just proved ONE THING.

HE HAD NO FVCKING IDEA OF WHO SABONIS WAS.


It just made me wanted to ask him the favorite question that he asked Temuchin:

Winston aka Dr. No. aka BBlock12000 aka Adoo

WHY'RE YOU SO FVCKING STUPID ????
:roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:32 pm
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old fart,

why are you so stupid,

you don't know who Sabonis is

you've never seen him played.

you are unable to describe Sabo style :oops: :oops: of play, that is because you don't know

quick embarrasssing yourself like you did w InO


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