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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:36 pm
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nig1 wrote:


Pryuen's point: It was Steve Novak and Padgett's fault, not Yao's



HEY NOOOOOOB

DON'T PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH, PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE !!!! :twisted:

WHEN
did I say it was Scott Padgett and Steve Novak's faults???

I only said
WHOEVER played on position 4 in that series SUX in defense, easily missed their defensive target (Carlos Boozer) and being the last anchor on defense, Big Yao often had to come over for help defense, and created a wrong mismatch, and therefore Carlos Boozer managed to score quite alot of points in that series.

ANYONE who followed Houston Rockets and had watched that series knew that Steve Novak, a rookie that season who split his time at both small forward and power forward positions, was NOT EVEN ACTIVE on the playoff roster in that year. :roll:

As for Scott Padgett, a 3-pointer specialist did not have many play minutes in that series, as he was in a pecking order behind Juwan Howard and Chuck Hayes.


And EVERYONE KNOWS Chuck Hayes was not as good a defensive force as he is today back then, and Juwan Howard just SUX in defense.

THIS JUST PROVED that you HAD NOT watched that playoff series.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:55 pm
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nig1 wrote:


Pryuen's point: It was Steve Novak and Padgett's fault, not Yao's

yip, according to PRY
    it was Coach Dunleavy's fault that ZZW ate himself outta BB shape in the middle of an NBA season, to such a degree that he had to go to rehab
same PRY, same ill logic.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:46 pm
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pryuen wrote:


ANYONE
who followed Houston Rockets and had watched that series knew that Steve Novak, a rookie that season who split his time at both small forward and power forward positions, was NOT EVEN ACTIVE on the playoff roster in that year. :roll: :roll:


pryuen wrote:

Carlos Boozer scored tons in that series. But as I've said he did not play centre, and it was just a WRONG MISMATCH of whoever played on position 4 (Juwan Howard, Chuck Hayes, Scott Padgett, Steve Novak) easily missed their target, and Yao Ming had to come over for help defense.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:02 pm
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Dr. No wrote:

yip, according to PRY
    it was Coach Dunleavy's fault that ZZW ate himself outta BB shape in the middle of an NBA season, to such a degree that he had to go to rehab
same PRY, same ill logic.


Well it was reported widely at that time in the media/press that during his tenure with LA Clippers, Wang Zhizhi was demanded to add weights by Michael Dunleavy senior in order to be switched to play centre, cos their centre position was very thin: the universally agreed bust Michael Olowokandi, a very old Sean Rooks and a rookie Melvin Ely, and their position 4 was already clustered with 4 to 5 players like Elton Brand, Corey Maggette, Lamar Odom, Cherokee Parks and Chris Wilcox.

That was NOT EXACTLY a WRONG MOVE given Wang Zhizhi's low post skills and footworks.

Wang Zhizhi eventually managed to add weight to 128 KG.

But when he moved to Miami Heats, Coach Pat Riley thought the ideal weight for Wang Zhizhi should be around 115 KG, such that he could swing between both centre and power forward positions. It took Wang Zhizhi 4 weeks to trim down back to 118 KG.


It was well documented and covered in the press, and it was NOT INVENTED/FABRICATED BY ME, DOUCHEBAG !!!! :twisted: :x :evil:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/nsports/2003- ... 252271.htm


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:17 pm
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Wow, this whole argument switched topics so many times, I cant even figure out what you guys are arguing anymore.

As far as the Utah series went, they couldn't put Yao on Okur because he'd keep taking outside shots and that's not where you want your defensive anchor to be. Boozer also takes a lot of outside shots. And as far as I remember, Yao did his job and scored plenty in the final game 7. He averaged 25 and 10 in that series.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:45 am
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Momak wrote:
Wow, this whole argument switched topics so many times, I cant even figure out what you guys are arguing anymore.

As far as the Utah series went, they couldn't put Yao on Okur because he'd keep taking outside shots and that's not where you want your defensive anchor to be. Boozer also takes a lot of outside shots. And as far as I remember, Yao did his job and scored plenty in the final game 7. He averaged 25 and 10 in that series.


Not that any of this ****** even has anything to do with Yao in the HOF. Why are these fools even posting about the Utah series when it's not even like either of them are arguing that Boozer is even as good as Yao, let alone HOF material. nig1 calls Boozer a "piece of garbage"

nig1 is just going to keep throwing random ****** out there.

but as long as we're talking about the series it was a 7 game series that came down to the last 10 seconds of the last game. whoever won that game was going to the WCF.

Yao had primarily responsibility in the paint, not on Boozer but in that series Yao outscored both Boozer and Okur. Boozer's offensive production that series came at the expense of Okur... Okur being about 7 points below his average and Boozer scoring about 5 points more than his average. Overall Utah's starting frontcourt production was less than their season average taken together for that series. Boozer had 2 uncharacteristic big games (scoring 41 points in a loss and 35 points in a win) mainly exploiting mismatches with Juwon Howard, Chuck Hayes and Shane Battier on the perimeter and Yao's slow rotation to cover in the paint and 2 uncharacteristic poor games (11 points in a loss and 15 points in a win)

In the decisive game seven Yao scored about 7 of Houston's last 10 points (including clutch free throws and bonus) but was unable to secure a rebound in the last 30 seconds on consecutive offensive rebounds by Utah to lose the series.

If you actually watched the game the keys for Utah was the clutch play in the 4th quarter from Matt Harpring who grabbed several key offensive rebounds to keep Utah above water and Okur, who despite being held to about 60% of his point production for the series and missing all his 3pointers hit consecutive 3s in the last 2 minutes to win the game.

That was the series. You faggots dont even remember it, nor does it have anything to do with Yao's HOF since even nig1 admits that Boozer is a "piece of garbage" player.

Trolls are by nature clueless but WHERE the EXPERTS place the reason for the ultimate loss can be very very clearly seen what happened in Houston a few months later... when Houston goes out and trades for SCOLA. You guys understand what is being said here... but druno is too stupid so I'll state it... Morey's numbers guys determined that Boozer, Harpring's production is the result of a structural weakness in the PF position. It's something the team lacked because Howard, Chuck etc could not cover those guys or grab those key boards. It wasn't a problem with Yao, which would have necessitated another backup for Yao or a more athletic backup. I've been laughing this entire time at druno and nig1 trying to troll a series they dont even remember

Now move on to the next troll topic. This is what I instructed nig1 yesterday this one is done.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:00 am
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temuchin wrote:

Now move on to the next troll topic. This is what I instructed nig1 yesterday this one is done.


WHAT'S NEXT????

Deron Williams + Carlos Boozer dominated over Tracy McGrady + Yao Ming ????

Or

Wang Zhizhi ate himself out of basketball shape in the middle of an NBA season, to such a degree that he had to go to rehab

Or

In N Out Burgers is the
SECOND TO NONE BEST hamburgers in USA????



:P :lol: :D :P :lol: :D


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:31 am
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nig1 wrote:
pryuen wrote:


ANYONE
who followed Houston Rockets and had watched that series knew that Steve Novak, a rookie that season who split his time at both small forward and power forward positions, was NOT EVEN ACTIVE on the playoff roster in that year. :roll: :roll:


pryuen wrote:

Carlos Boozer scored tons in that series. But as I've said he did not play centre, and it was just a WRONG MISMATCH of whoever played on position 4 (Juwan Howard, Chuck Hayes, Scott Padgett, Steve Novak) easily missed their target, and Yao Ming had to come over for help defense.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:53 am
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he's literally turned into drno

he even posts the same crap over and over just like drno multiple times in the same thread in lieu of being able to post anything substantive

for a normal human being that would be a sign it's time to sit out posting for a while. but in nigruno's case it's time to closely monitor the thread hitting F5 repeatedly over a period of hours or days and repost the EXACT SAME THING any time anyone else posts something in the thread.

that's the way you win the thread. the tryhard way.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:59 am
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5/27/11 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I don't even have to try hard. Too easy! Too easy!" U have Pryuen saying Steve Novak was never active in the playoffs that year but beforehand included his name as one of the players assigned to guard Boozer :lol: Then again, u and ur relevant 5/27/11 article which still has me rotflmao. Like I said, too easy!


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