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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:51 pm
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pryuen wrote:
And sometimes, it might not be due to lack of drive/motivation for success that offsprings of famous athletes or celebrities could not be as successful as their parents.

IMHO, alot of time, it could be
more a curse than a blessing for being the son or daughter of an extremely successful man or woman. The burden of the pressure, the loss of identity and unduely expectations could easily crush the young lad/lass, cos they grow up living under the shadow of the greatness of their father or mother.

Surely when Yao Xiaoming or Yao Xiaoli grow up, they don't want to be considered I'm the son or daughter of Yao Ming....They want to be themselves: I'm Yao Xiaoming or Yao Xiaoli, and Yao Ming is just my father.


No doubt, the pressure of living in the shadow of a famous parent plays a part. The kid is always in the spotlight and the expectation place on them most be pretty frightening for them. They're basically in a no win situation.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:18 pm
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knowing yao, he'll probably be a pansy and not force his kid to be a basketball player even if he grows to be 8 foot tall..such a shame. The CNT needs to kidnap the baby and turn him into what his dad could have been!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:15 am
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It looks like the One Child Policy in China might force Yao Ming to make a decision to have his baby born in USA, if he wants to pursue for more than 2 children in future.

http://basketball.titan24.com/2010-01-09/54524.html

Since he and Ye Li are the lone child in their family, they are entitled to have 2 kids.

But if they want to have more than 2, they have to pay a hefty RMB 1 Billion for their 3rd child, cos per the Shanghai Municipality rulings, couple has to pay 3 times the annual family household income if they exceed the quota of children they are entitled to.

Since in the foreseeable future, Yao Ming will still be playing in NBA, and be spending most of his time in USA. And his parent and Ye Li will most probably stay with him in the States.

So it will be inconvenient to have their kid (or kids) to be born in China, as it will be more logical and appropriate that the kid be staying with his/her parent who will be in the States.

Besides, it will be odd if they have 2 kids born in China that is of Chinese nationality, but if they want a 3rd kid, then the 3rd kid will need to be born in USA or else, Yao Ming is to pay the hefty Social Child Support Payment 社会抚养费. Then they will have 2 kids of Chinese nationality but 1 kid to be of USA nationality.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:31 am
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I now know WHY expectant mothers are flooding the maternity wards of Hong Kong's hospitals in recent years.

It was reported that for the
first 6 months in 2009, 44 of every 100 babies born in Hong Kong had mainland Chinese mothers.

And the benefit for doing so:

  • Hong Kong offers better medical facilities, with Western-trained doctors and nurses.
  • Babies born in Hong Kong automatically receive permanent residency status, entitling them to benefits including free education, free medical care and a Hong Kong passport with visa-free access to more than 100 countries.
  • It is a loophole to the One Child Policy, and the couple needs not pay the ridiculously high Social Child Support Payment 社会抚养费 imposed on them if they wish to have extra kids above their quota.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:37 am
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pryuen wrote:
Besides, it will be odd if they they will have 2 kids of Chinese nationality but 1 kid to be of USA nationality.
there is nothing odd about that. :!:

many parents (from a multitde of national originals) in the USA have chidren born in different countires. It is analogous to
  • parents in HK who have children born in either HK or in mainland China
  • Parents (of Chinese origin) in SE Asia countries (Malaysia, Singrpore, Indonesian, Fillipines, etc) who have children born locally or in China

In my family, some siblings were born in the USA, some in China and some in HK.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:50 am
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pryuen wrote:
And the benefit for doing so:

  • Hong Kong offers better medical facilities, with Western-trained doctors and nurses.
we await the response from that quack Voyd. :!: :?
  • pryuen wrote:
    It is a loophole to the One Child Policy, and the couple needs not pay the ridiculously high Social Child Support Payment 社会抚养费 imposed on them if they wish to have extra kids above their quota.
  • if one understand you correct,

      A mainland China family can have as many children as they want, just so only one is born in mainland China.

      so conceivably, a Chinese family with 5 kids can legally (do not have to pay child support social cost for the 4 kids) live in a Chinese city,
        as long as they can prove that 4 of the kids were
        born outside mainland china.


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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:21 am
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    Dr. No wrote:
    if one understand you correct,

      A mainland China family can have as many children as they want, just so only one is born in mainland China.

      so conceivably, a Chinese family with 5 kids can legally (do not have to pay child support social cost for the 4 kids) live in a Chinese city,
        as long as they can prove that 4 of the kids were
        born outside mainland china.


    Well, that's correct. But the problem with that is as China does not recognize dual nationality, those kids born outside of China are only considered overseas Chinese with different nationality/travel documents. They would not be entitled to free education and other social welfare/benefits/fringes and rights enjoyed by Chinese citizens, and they may encounter all kinds of inconveniences in their daily life.


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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:08 am
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    oh, that's interesting. Might be a stupid question since I'm not totally in the loop, but so technically even if HK's now a part of China, if they're born in HK, they're not recognized as Chinese citizens?


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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:16 am
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    Momak wrote:
    oh, that's interesting. Might be a stupid question since I'm not totally in the loop, but so technically even if HK's now a part of China, if they're born in HK, they're not recognized as Chinese citizens?


    Well, Hong Kong is considered a part of China, but a Special Administrative Region, having its own jurisidiction, currency and passport.

    So yeah, Hong Kong people are not entitled to the same free education and social welfare of Chinese citizen.


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    PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:30 pm
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    how about quintuplets? u dont get fined for that rite?


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