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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:15 pm
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As I've said, if you don't know, just STFU !!! :twisted:

nig1 wrote:
Why doesn't he fly back to shanghai? Dude's out for the year, take care of ur business.


You think he wanted to stay in Houston??? He is not allowed to take long haul flights by the doctors.

nig1 wrote:
Either u lay down the law or fold...that was freakin' pathetic, offering liu wei to be the highest paid pg. U know that was strickly yao's idea.


Well, Liu Wei had been the starting point guard for the national team for almost 10 years now.

Despite what people criticized him for his game, he is
STILL the best point guard in China.

Personally, I don't grudge him asking for a raise of his salary from RMB 960K, much lower than what the other national team players are earning. But to demand a 3 to 4 fold raise is something not only unacceptable to Yao Ming/Team Yao, it will be as well disruptive to the whole salary structure of the CBA league.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:41 pm
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pryuen wrote:


Liu Wei called Yao Ming and requested to talk direct with him on his contract, but Yao Ming told him that he would not be directly involved in the team operations and management and asked Liu Wei to talk with Lu Hao directly.



the friendship is over.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:50 pm
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nig1 wrote:
pryuen wrote:


Liu Wei called Yao Ming and requested to talk direct with him on his contract, but Yao Ming told him that he would not be directly involved in the team operations and management and asked Liu Wei to talk with Lu Hao directly.



the friendship is over.


So what do you want?? :roll:

You criticized Big Yao for mixing up friendship with business.....

Personally, don't think Big Yao had done anything
WRONG by refusing to talk with Liu Wei direct.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:15 pm
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I'm just sayin the friendship is over, geez. Yao doesn't have to talk to Liu directly but it would help if he was involved in negotiations face-2-face. Think about it, if he can't travel overseas bc of his foot, why not do teleconferencing? yao's purposely avoiding any contractual talks as to not step on anyone's foot. Still, it doesn't help his cause by hiding. If I was in Liu's place, i'd be insulted wanting to talk to yao, my "best friend", but suddenly, it's "mr. owner" who doesn't wanna talk. To think Liu was the best man at yao's wedding. Sigh, well it's a harsh lesson learned to never buy a team w/emotional attachment.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:20 pm
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nig1 wrote:
I'm just sayin the friendship is over, geez. Yao doesn't have to talk to Liu directly but it would help if he was involved in negotiations face-2-face. Think about it, if he can't travel overseas bc of his foot, why not do teleconferencing? yao's purposely avoiding any contractual talks as to not step on anyone's foot. Still, it doesn't help his cause by hiding. If I was in Liu's place, i'd be insulted wanting to talk to yao, my "best friend", but suddenly, it's "mr. owner" who doesn't wanna talk. To think Liu was the best man at yao's wedding. Sigh, well it's a harsh lesson learned to never buy a team w/emotional attachment.


If a precedent be set that all they need to do is to blackmail the team, and Big Yao will talk and directly reolve their problems....then what will happen with others, people like Li Qiuping???

After all, you said it yourself. Business is business. don't mix it up with friendship.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:45 pm
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The new head coach of Shanghai Sharks had arrived.

He is Bob Donewald Jr.

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Very young...only 39 years old, but have over 20 years of coaching experience.

He is the son of the famous NCAA coach Bob Donewald.

His coaching career started as the assistant coach of West Michigan State University (1989 ~ 1993).

He was then scout and personal assistant to General Manager of New Jersey Nets (1993 ~ 94).

He was then assistant coach for Morehead State University (1994 ~ 96).

He then spent the next 5 years in the British Basketball League leading his teams to the finals of the championship series on three occasions. (Leicester Riders (1996-98 ); Derby Storm (1998-99), and the London Leopards (1999-2000)).

He then was assistant coach for New Orleans Hornets for 2 years (2001 ~ 03) under Paul Silas.

He then followed Paul Silas to Cleveland Cavaliers in 2004. He was Lebron James' personal coach for 2004 Athens Olympics.

He then was the head coach for Chicago Soldiers in ABA (2004 ~ 05).

He spent the next 2 years in Brazil (head coach of Sao Carlos (2005-06) and Guaruja (2006-07))

He returned to US to become assistant coach for The University of Alabama at Birmingham in 2007.

He was then the head coach of BC Dnipro Dnepropetrovsk in the Ukrainian league in 2008 ~ 09 season.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:38 am
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Shanghai Sharks also announced that they have signed Michael Clark, former strength and conditioning coach of Phoenix Suns to become the Strength and Conditioning Coach for the team.

So the top 3 coaches of Shanghai Sharks will all be from USA with NBA expousre/experience:


Head Coach: Bob Donewald Jr.
Assistant Coach: Anthony Falsone
Strength & Conditioning Coach: Michael Clark


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:57 am
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  • Yao Ming and Liu Wei talked over phone yesterday in a cordial manner. It seemed things were smoothened out, and Shanghai Sharks will register Liu Wei for the new season.
  • However, he has yet to put his signature on the new contract, and Sha Yifeng said everything will have to wait until Big Yao's return sometimes in December.
  • It was revealed that Liu Wei originally wanted to leave last season. But he was given a promise that he will get a significant raise in salary, plus the promise that he will be retained to take over as head coach of Shanghai Sharks when he retires from playing by Li Qiuping.
  • Therefore right after Team Yao/Yao Ming axed Li Qiuping, fearing that he will not be able to stay as the future head coach for the team, Sha Yifeng and Liu Wei demanded for a salary of RMB 4M + the future head coach condition, which was rejected by Team Yao.
  • Right afterwards, they lowered their demand to RMB 3M + 500K (for Sha Yifeng), which was again turned down by Team Yao.
  • As of latest, the offer from Big Yao/Team Yao is RMB 1.9M which represents already the highest paid salary for point guards in China, and amongst the top 3 to 4 paid players in CBA.
  • Shanghai Sharks had started team practice under the new head coach Bob Donewald Jr., but Liu Wei was working out on his own, and had not yet joined the team for team practice.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:09 am
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Sometimes, I really wonder what actions will the new CBA Commissioner, Xin Lancheng or the China's National Tax Bureau will take in such "illegal" mal-practices every CBA team had been practicing for all these years.

It seems every CBA player will have 2 contracts with the club,
one called the Yang contract; the other called the Yin contract.

The Yang contract will be the one that is going to be filed with CBA, and taxes to be levied accordingly.

The Yin contract is the one that will be kept confidential just between the club and the player.

Say for example, the new stipulation announced by Xin Lancheng that aims to curb/control the top ceiling of the earnings of CBA players (national team players salary cannot exceed RMB 1M) will become
TOTALLY VOID AND USELESS, cos in Liu Wei's case, his "official taxable" income will be RMB 1M or even less in the Yang contract, while the remaining balance of the true salary of RMB 1.9M will be listed in the Yin contract.

What a genius way to avoid tax from the government !!! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:09 pm
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pryuen wrote:


Sometimes, I really wonder what actions will the new CBA Commissioner, Xin Lancheng or the China's National Tax Bureau will take in such "illegal" mal-practices every CBA team had been practicing for all these years.

It seems every CBA player will have 2 contracts with the club,
one called the Yang contract; the other called the Yin contract.

The Yang contract will be the one that is going to be filed with CBA, and taxes to be levied accordingly.

The Yin contract is the one that will be kept confidential just between the club and the player.

Say for example, the new stipulation announced by Xin Lancheng that aims to curb/control the top ceiling of the earnings of CBA players (national team players salary cannot exceed RMB 1M) will become
TOTALLY VOID AND USELESS, cos in Liu Wei's case, his "official taxable" income will be RMB 1M or even less in the Yang contract, while the remaining balance of the true salary of RMB 1.9M will be listed in the Yin contract.

What a genius way to avoid tax from the government !!! :twisted:

theres corruption involved just like soccer. there was big news on chinese soccer scandal involving every level of the league.


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