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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:29 am
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Dr. No wrote:

why would Yao want to buy into such a messy situation :?:


Yeah.....it's a NO-WIN situation for him.

He had previously expressed that he knew it would be a tough nut to crack and not necessarily a wise investment and money-making business; but he still went ahead for the purchase cos he wanted to give back to his alma mater team and do something for the basketball of Shanghai.

But now it seemed due to his or Team Yao lack of experience of how to run/operate a basketball team, he could end up losing his friendship with his mentor Li Qiuping, as well as with Liu Wei and his agent, Sha Yifeng, both long term friends since childhood.

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Sha Yifeng, who is 5 years the senior of Yao Ming, was a childhood buddy of Big Yao. They lived in the same backyard, and Sha's father was the mentor/coach of Big Yao's Mom. Sha Yifeng was the one who recommended Nike to sign up Yao Ming as a youngster when he worked for Nike China.

He now owns his own sports agency/marketing company and is the agent of Liu Wei.

Sha Yifeng told the press/media that Liu Wei is determined to leave Shanghai Sharks for Bayi Rockets, even if Team Yao or Yao Ming are reluctant to release him as he is still binded by a 1-year contract with Shanghai Sharks.

Sha said since Lu Hao was appointed General Manager of Shanghai Sharks, he and Liu Wei had approached Lu Hao for contract extension/negotiation but Lu Hao had refused to talk with them on their request.

Liu Wei called Yao Ming and requested to talk direct with him on his contract, but Yao Ming told him that he would not be directly involved in the team operations and management and asked Liu Wei to talk with Lu Hao directly.


Both Liu Wei and Sha Yifeng were upset and thought Yao Ming and Team Yao are not sincere and do not require Liu Wei's services in Shanghai Sharks.

As a consequence, Bayi Rockets approached Liu Wei and offered him terms and conditions that he won't be able to reject: he will be given the same salary and fringe benefits of Wang Zhizhi, i.e. close to 2 million RMB per annum and appointed a lieutenant colonel in the PLA. That is almost like 3 times his current salary in Shanghai Sharks.

Liu Wei said even if Yao Ming now wants to talk and convince him to stay, it will be too late. He is willing to spend next year not playing in CBA in order to join Bayi Rockets in the 2010/2011 season.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:42 am
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pryuen wrote:
Sha Yifeng's father was the mentor/coach of [b]Big Yao's Mom. .[/color][/size]
correct me if im wrong.

    during the cultural revolution, Yao's Mom (to save her own skin)
    had turned on her mentor and, as a result, he was sent to prison camp


anyway, it is a no-win situation w th Shanghai Sharks; Yao's should not get involved w this mess.

but if team Yao still wants to get involved, w Liu Wei leaving, perhaps they should considered convincing Sun Yue to play for them.

Sun Yue may not be NBA material, but he is most definitely an improvement over Liu Wei at the CBA competitive level


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:59 am
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Dr. No wrote:
pryuen wrote:
Sha Yifeng's father was the mentor/coach of Big Yao's Mom.
correct me if im wrong.

    during the cultural revolution, Yao's Mom (to save her own skin)
    had turned on her mentor and, as a result, he was sent to prison camp


You REALLY bought those CRAP of Brook Larmer wrote in Operations Yao Ming???? :roll:

Sha Yifeng's father is 沙凤翱 Sha Fengao, who used to be a basketball player for Shanghai Sharks, and was appointed head coach for Shanghai Oriental (the women team) in 1968 as a 27-years-old. Fang Fengdi, Yao's mother, was the starting centre and captain of that team under him.

And if Fang Fengdi had betrayed and sold out Sha Fengao during the Cultural Revolution and Sha Fengao ended up in prison camp, I don't think their 2 families would have been that close, and Yao Ming and Sha Yifeng would never have been close buddies since their childhood.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:07 am
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Dr. No wrote:

but if team Yao still wants to get involved, w Liu Wei leaving, perhaps they should considered convincing Sun Yue to play for them.

Sun Yue may not be NBA material, but he is most definitely an improvement over Liu Wei at the CBA competitive level


Naaaaah, now that Sun Yue does not play in NBA, contractual wise, he is still not a free agent. He is still considered a player of Beijing Aoshen Olympians.

He will play for Beijing Aoshen Olympians in the Chinese Super League that is to commence November 28 in Chengdu against 18 NBDL, ABA and European teams.

http://www.yaomingmania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14411


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:18 pm
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Don't understand why CBA still don't do trades. CBA players seems to be able to leave regardless if they are under contract or not, its so corrupt.

But any case, Yao shouldn't be involved, Shi is a moron trying to stronghold Yao like that, regardless of their previous relationship, Liu wei is still under contract for this year, if Bayi want him, they should trade their abundance of young prospect for Liu's service. Other wise let him sit out, Shanghai will be won't win more than 10 games, with or without Liu.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:23 am
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Latest Updates on the fiasco:

  • All Shanghai Sharks players chose to no-show and refused to take a medical check yesterday (November 10).
  • Zhang Mingji and Lu Hao met and talked with every player to try to talk/convince them that they were all given a salary raise commensurate to their performance. On an average, 55% salary raise.
  • Zhang Mingji also held a press conference today and told the press/media that Sha Yifeng demanded for Liu Wei a salary that was totally unacceptable to Team Yao. It was almost like double the current salary of most national team players, and no CBA players are earning that kind of salary, with the exception of maybe Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian.
  • Team Yao is prepared to propose to Liu Wei and offered him a salary that will make him the highest paid point guard in CBA, but Sha Yifeng and Liu Wei refused to sit down and listen to what they have to offer.
  • The Shanghai Municipal Sports Bureau had officially refused the transfer request of Liu Wei. And the deputy mayor of Shanghai in charge of sports stepped in and met Sha Yifeng/Liu Wei to persuade them to re-open negotiation with Team Yao.
  • Zhang Mingji also told the press/media that they had already secured the service of Tim Pickett, a shooting guard that played for Shanxi Zhongyu last season (38.3 ppg/7.94 rpg/3.73 apg/3 spg/42% 3-pointer%), and they are also scouting players from West Asia and Taiwan. (They are interested in securing the service of Wu Dahao).


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:50 pm
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i say let them go if they want, they all overpaid. put together an international squad with taiwanese, european, ex-div 1 players.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:15 pm
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that's why u don't mix business w/friendship. Yao Ming is a farce of an owner if he wants to make Liu Wei the highest paid pg in the CBA. Yao's like an absentee owner, ala Mr. Jordan of the Bobcats.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:28 pm
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nig1 wrote:
that's why u don't mix business w/friendship. Yao Ming is a farce of an owner if he wants to make Liu Wei the highest paid pg in the CBA. Yao's like an absentee owner, ala Mr. Jordan of the Bobcats.


NO ONE is asking you to comment as you OBVIOUSLY had not followed the whole fiasco.

If he had mixed business with friendship:

  • He would not have axed Li Qiuping, his mentor as the head coach for the Shanghai Sharks.
  • He would have interfered directly when Liu Wei called him.
  • He would have said yes to Sha Yifeng/Liu Wei's unreasonable demand for getting a RMB 2.5 to 3M salary per annum.
SO STFU.... :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:30 pm
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he bought the team. He is da freakin' owner. He wanted to drag is foot into this, now he has to accept responsibilities. Why doesn't he fly back to shanghai? Dude's out for the year, take care of ur business. Buying the team just bc he felt attached to it is just stupid. Now he's risking losing relationships...yao can't run ******. Either u lay down the law or fold...that was freakin' pathetic, offering liu wei to be the highest paid pg. U know that was strickly yao's idea.


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