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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:09 pm
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superjohn wrote:

Why should the Chinese coach only show the video of Yao? He should also show the videos of Kobe, Dwight Howard etc to those young Chinese players. They should learn from the NBA winners, the players who know how to play hard and win on the court, not just train in the gymnasium.


Naaaaaaaaaaah, Bob Donewald Jr. said WHAT the China national team (and players in China in general) severely lack is the physical strengths to play contact basketball and tough defense and the stamina to last throughout fast-paced games, and fully packed 8 games in 10 days type of international tournaments.

WITHOUT MUCH BETTER physical strengths and stamina, it's NO USE to stress talents or skills or game plans/strategies.

THAT'S WHY
for the past 10 days, there had yet been any team scrimmage or discussion of game plans/strategies/tactics, but just purely focus on strength and conditioning training, as well as basic fundamentals (dribbling, passing, free throws shooting, jump shots, turnaround and fadeaway jump shots).

And to the Chinese players right now, the
MOST IMPORTANT mentality/habit that need to be instilled into them is that they need to realize that unless they can treat the strength and conditioning/hitting the gym seriously as their daily routine/habit, there is NO BETTER WAY to transform themselves into players with BETTER physical strengths and stamina.

And there is NO BETTER AND RELEVANT EXAMPLES than using Yao Ming as their role model.


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:41 pm
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pryuen wrote:
there is NO BETTER AND RELEVANT EXAMPLES than using Yao Ming as their role model.
likewise,
    there is no better eg, insofar as what not to do, than
    • zzw (waste of talent) and
    • plateaued Sun (reluctance to work on glaring weakness)


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:17 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
pryuen wrote:
there is NO BETTER AND RELEVANT EXAMPLES than using Yao Ming as their role model.
likewise,
    there is no better eg, insofar as what not to do, than
    • zzw (waste of talent) and
    • plateaued Sun (reluctance to work on glaring weakness)


cut the crap and post who on that CNT roster in training camp can do what you said and make it in the NBA (and be a allstar/HOF lmao) if they work hard?

as opposed to generally being motivated by Yao's example of working hard like pryuen posted


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:28 pm
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superjohn wrote:
Why should the Chinese coach only show the video of Yao? He should also show the videos of Kobe, Dwight Howard etc to those young Chinese players. They should learn from the NBA winners, the players who know how to play hard and win on the court, not just train in the gymnasium.


because Chinese have some weird fear/awe of blacks, seeing a Chinese player like Yao do it somehow seems to mean that other Chinese can do it. for some reason Chinese seem to think black ballplayers are from other planet and so even if you show them working hard, stuff they do on the basketball court are things they do (as in black people do) as opposed to ****** that Chinese players could do if they work hard.

also kobe and dwight would be ****** examples for Chinese (or any national team) players. dwight is the poster child for skimping on the fundamentals and getting by on physical talent. and emulating kobe would simply mean being a ****** ***** teammate who blames others for everything and bullies other players and officials on the court to gain advantage.

neither really are decent examples.

better examples would be grant hill who is light skinned and old and is proof that conditioning and rehab can work. or paul pierce who used to be notoriously lazy yet has rededicated himself to conditioning and added years to his career


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:25 pm
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temuchin wrote:


neither really are decent examples.

Turd Chin
    that is just your opinion, which is worth less than the toilet paper that
    i wipe my azz with


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:34 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
temuchin wrote:


neither really are decent examples.

Turd Chin
    that is just your opinion, which is worth less than the toilet paper that
    i wipe my azz with



lol you rolled a "2"


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:38 pm
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temuchin wrote:
Dr. No wrote:
pryuen wrote:
there is NO BETTER AND RELEVANT EXAMPLES than using Yao Ming as their role model.
likewise,
    there is no better eg, insofar as what not to do, than
    • zzw (waste of talent) and
    • plateaued Sun (reluctance to work on glaring weakness)


cut the crap and post who on that CNT roster in training camp can do what you said and make it in the NBA (and be a allstar/HOF lmao) if they work hard?

as opposed to generally being motivated by Yao's example of working hard like pryuen posted


And in fact, regardless of HOW our Dr. Look On The Surface tried to bash and d!$$ Wang Zhizhi and Sun Yue, the 2 of them are STILL MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE AND CONTRIBUTING MORE to their respective teams (Bayi Fubong Rockets and Beijing Aoshen Olympians) in CBA than the impact of any other members of the national team to their respective teams.

Both Wang Zhizhi and Sun Yue were the CORE NUCLEUS PLAYER and played the MOST MINUTES PER GAME in their respective teams of Bayi Fubong Rockets and Beijing Aoshen Olympians.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:50 pm
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So typical of you, Raymond, whenever you lose an argument, you go off a tangent to divert attention from the topic of discussion.

the topic of discuss, started by you, is training video.
  • your point was to use Yao's traininig methods as to what the young lad should follow
  • my point was to use ZZW and Plateued Sun's methods as to what not to do
the topic was never on most minute per game nor core nucleus player.

just admit that u lost the argument. and stop going off tangent.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:02 pm
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Dr. No wrote:
So typical of you, Raymond, whenever you lose an argument, you go off a tangent to divert attention from the topic of discussion.

the topic of discuss, started by you, is training video.
  • your point was to use Yao's traininig methods as to what the young lad should follow
  • my point was to use ZZW and Plateued Sun's methods as to what not to do
the topic was never on most minute per game nor core nucleus player.

just admit that u lost the argument. and stop going off tangent.


Your point is IRRELEVANT in first place. :roll:

The discussion had ALWAYS been centred on that what Chinese players now severely lacked is not skills or talents, but physical strengths and stamina to last through multiple 40 minute games often scheduled fully packed in a short time span of 8 to 10 days of an international tournament, and that Chinese young players should start to take strength and conditioning/hitting the gym seriously as a habit/daily routine to transform themselves to much stronger and tougher players with better physical strengths and stamina.

As far as I know, both Wang Zhizhi and Sun Yue had hired personal strength and conditioning assistants in China to help them work on their physical strengths and stamina. That showed in their games in CBA that they are
STILL the most effective and efficient players of their respective teams.

As pointed out CORRECTLY by Temuchin, you're the ONE that went off a tangent from the topic........NOT ME. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:35 pm
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My point is MOST relevant

  • Yao Ming's training method is a good eg of what to do
  • ZZW and Plateaued Sun's methods are good egs of what NOT to do


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