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<  Yao on the court, and his most recent game  ~  Aaron Brooks = New Mike James

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:48 am
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pryuen wrote:

You mean breaking down Rockets' offense??? :roll:

To me, Aaron Brooks is just like Chen Jianghua in the Chinese national team.


Yeah he has lightning speed.....no doubt about that.

Yeah he also shoots better than Rafer Alston.


But speed just seemed to be just his only weapon so far.

He lacks height, court vision, composure, the ability to organize offense, and the willingness to pass.


Alot of time, he just over-dribbled over 15 to 20 seconds and yet could not find the open team mates. And when he did decide to pass, it would leave too little time on the shot clock for his team mates.

When he penetrated, it seemed all in his eyes was the basket. He seemed lack of the ability or just unwilling to make an extra crispy pass to team mates in better scoring positions, and was throwing up contested jumpers or layups just to be blocked by the defenders.

And if you noticed, when his team mates, in particular Big Yao, set him the pick, he never bothered to roll the ball back.


His shot selections is another major problem. Yeah he got range, and he shot well from the perimeter. But very often he bricked the contested 3-pointers, resulting in long rebounds that created fast breaks for the opponents.

And his defense against his target point guards just SUX !!! He even made Steve Blake looks like an All Stars in Game 3.....with Steve Blake easily dribbled past him, and dishing out assist after assist after assist to Greg Oden and Travis Outlaw in 3Q for easy dunks.

He needs to improve his shot selections, his passing, his court vision, and cut off his individualistic style of play to become a better point guard.

He can't play on like this like a little chick without head.


AB isnt a finished product. Yeah he still has a scorers mentality and makes poor decisions.

Bottomline is he is coachable and has talent that the Rox lacked in the past. At this point I'll take him on my team even with his flaws.

Wouldn't you agree Brooks>Alston in the playoffs?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:43 pm
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MnYaoFan wrote:

AB isnt a finished product. Yeah he still has a scorers mentality and makes poor decisions.

Bottomline is he is coachable and has talent that the Rox lacked in the past. At this point I'll take him on my team even with his flaws.

Wouldn't you agree Brooks>Alston in the playoffs?


Not yet, it is hard to say. Even though we have more success up to this point, but we are playing Portland. If we are playing Utah, Brooks or Alston, we will still get fried. Brooks is just lucky that he is playing against Portland.

But I do agree that Brooks has more potential, and it is worth it to develop him. However, because of his size, I do think that we will always need a reliable backup point guard who is bigger for defending against bigger guards and able to pass the ball to Yao.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:14 pm
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pryuen wrote:
MnYaoFan wrote:
I can live with AB's decisions most of the time. He's got speed to burn and we need his ability to penetrate and break down the defense.


You mean breaking down Rockets' offense??? :roll:

To me, Aaron Brooks is just like Chen Jianghua in the Chinese national team.


Yeah he has lightning speed.....no doubt about that.

Yeah he also shoots better than Rafer Alston.


But speed just seemed to be just his only weapon so far.

He lacks height, court vision, composure, the ability to organize offense, and the willingness to pass.


Alot of time, he just over-dribbled over 15 to 20 seconds and yet could not find the open team mates. And when he did decide to pass, it would leave too little time on the shot clock for his team mates.

When he penetrated, it seemed all in his eyes was the basket. He seemed lack of the ability or just unwilling to make an extra crispy pass to team mates in better scoring positions, and was throwing up contested jumpers or layups just to be blocked by the defenders.

And if you noticed, when his team mates, in particular Big Yao, set him the pick, he never bothered to roll the ball back.


His shot selections is another major problem. Yeah he got range, and he shot well from the perimeter. But very often he bricked the contested 3-pointers, resulting in long rebounds that created fast breaks for the opponents.

And his defense against his target point guards just SUX !!! He even made Steve Blake looks like an All Stars in Game 3.....with Steve Blake easily dribbled past him, and dishing out assist after assist after assist to Greg Oden and Travis Outlaw in 3Q for easy dunks.

He needs to improve his shot selections, his passing, his court vision, and cut off his individualistic style of play to become a better point guard.

He can't play on like this like a little chick without head.


LMAO!!!! All this from a guy who thinks weak side penetration beats a front on a big man. :roll: :oops:

AB generally knows when enough is enough and he needs to give the ball to Yao. Mike James never stopped shooting. BTW, I pretty much called it when I said James, after he got that contract from Minny, would be traded multiple times, and end up doing nothing.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:29 pm
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tharock220 wrote:


LMAO!!!! All this from a guy who thinks weak side penetration beats a front on a big man. :roll: :oops:

AB generally knows when enough is enough and he needs to give the ball to Yao.


WHICH part of my analysis of Aaron Brooks mentioned weak side penetration?? :roll:

And WHICH part of it you don't understand?? :roll:

And IF Aaron Brooks knew when enough is enough, could organize offense effectively, could control the tempo/rhythm of the game, has better decision making in nano split of seconds, is willing to dish an extra pass to team mates with better scoring positions and could play tough defense, WHAT made you think Rick Adelman had been playing MOSTLY Kyle Lowry at the point guard position instead of Aaron Brooks in 4Q???


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:13 pm
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I'm pretty sure Lowry was used mainly for his defense, and not because he could run the offense better. Give Brooks a break, you've been harassing him for every little mistake he makes. Definitely there's space for improvement, but he's done some good things for the team too.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:55 pm
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pryuen wrote:
tharock220 wrote:


LMAO!!!! All this from a guy who thinks weak side penetration beats a front on a big man. :roll: :oops:

AB generally knows when enough is enough and he needs to give the ball to Yao.


WHICH part of my analysis of Aaron Brooks mentioned weak side penetration?? :roll:

And WHICH part of it you don't understand?? :roll:

And IF Aaron Brooks knew when enough is enough, could organize offense effectively, could control the tempo/rhythm of the game, has better decision making in nano split of seconds, is willing to dish an extra pass to team mates with better scoring positions and could play tough defense, WHAT made you think Rick Adelman had been playing MOSTLY Kyle Lowry at the point guard position instead of Aaron Brooks in 4Q???


Pay attention. I'd love for you to explain exactly what weakside penetration is by the way.

http://www.yaomingmania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14025&start=0

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[*]More penetration from the weak side by the guards


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I'm pretty sure Lowry was used mainly for his defense, and not because he could run the offense better. Give Brooks a break, you've been harassing him for every little mistake he makes. Definitely there's space for improvement, but he's done some good things for the team too.


Lowry is a better point guard than Brooks. No question about it. Brooks lacks Lowry's court vision and know how. This is something lost on Pryuen who seems to think I was comparing AB to Mike Lowry.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:41 pm
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it's hard to say what Brook's ceiling is. He's obviously not a natural point but I think his weaknesses are overstated. like him being short. that ****** doesn't matter. his defense is going to be an issue for the rest of his career but the rest of that ****** is as much a lack of proper development as anything else. houston's doing ****** developing brooks. RA just puts him out there and wants him to figure it out

Brooks not being able to get it into Yao is a fault but hardly one that is unique to Brooks

aside from Brooks' speed Brooks is a superlative spot up shooter. he isn't good on the run with a floater like Parker but again that's more an issue with him not practicing that ****** and being developed correctly.

Brooks obviously lacks the pull up game like top guards in the league and drops off precipitously if he's not spot up shooting. that's again a function of practice.

One flag is the fact that he cannot hit his ****** FTs that speaks to a lack of mental toughness and a willingness to work on his game. brooks is fast and athletic but not preternaturally so compared to freaks in the NBA. he's one of those players who'll only get to be a good player through work... which he obviously hasn't put in to this point


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:59 pm
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temuchin wrote:
it's hard to say what Brook's ceiling is. He's obviously not a natural point but I think his weaknesses are overstated. like him being short. that ****** doesn't matter. his defense is going to be an issue for the rest of his career but the rest of that ****** is as much a lack of proper development as anything else. houston's doing ****** developing brooks. RA just puts him out there and wants him to figure it out

Brooks not being able to get it into Yao is a fault but hardly one that is unique to Brooks

aside from Brooks' speed Brooks is a superlative spot up shooter. he isn't good on the run with a floater like Parker but again that's more an issue with him not practicing that ****** and being developed correctly.

Brooks obviously lacks the pull up game like top guards in the league and drops off precipitously if he's not spot up shooting. that's again a function of practice.

One flag is the fact that he cannot hit his ****** FTs that speaks to a lack of mental toughness and a willingness to work on his game. brooks is fast and athletic but not preternaturally so compared to freaks in the NBA. he's one of those players who'll only get to be a good player through work... which he obviously hasn't put in to this point


I'm posting this after we just lost the 5th game. I personally don't like Brooks at all. I mean, when was the last time he gave us more than 7 assists??? Ever??

It's disgusting to see him shooting 6/20 in such a crucial game. I don't mind him getting more shots off than Yao, but come on! 20 shots???? That's almost Yao (12) and ARtest(9) combined! You just do NOT do that on this team unless you can make half of them.

I don't understand why the Rockets can't get a semi decent point guard for so many years. Just get someone who'll pass first, is it really that hard to find?

Brooks has very limited upper ceiling. I think he's at most a good sixth man.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:31 pm
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we had a semi-decent pg in Rafer who'd pass to Yao. Course, he wasn't that great at shooting or breaking down the defense.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 pm
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Momak wrote:
we had a semi-decent pg in Rafer who'd pass to Yao. Course, he wasn't that great at shooting or breaking down the defense.


You mean O-fer? Come on, he was just a more experienced version of Brooks. He could pass a little bit more, but he was slower. I'd say he and Brooks are just about the same pay grade.


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